Hunter Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I would like to get permision for this due to close range fox problems outside our house. They are causing problems with our chickens, and due to nearby reisdents, 12g would be too noisy. A telescopic sight equiped rifle would be unsuitable due to close ranges involved, do you think I have a chance at applying for shotgun .410 slug rounds for this purpose? I currently own a .222 centerfire, .22lr and a shotgun on seperate certificate. I wouldnt need an FAC .410 shotgun, just something simple to do the job quietly and safely. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartridge Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 well the feo would have to check the land seeing as slug shot is fac controled but for foxes at close range it would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 ...and what about the choking on your .410? Slug from a .410 for close range at foxes ain't worth the trouble. Seems a lot of trouble to go to. Get a Hushpower .410 and hit 'em with a load of AAA from a 3" shell. The pattern will more than compensate for the inaccuracy of the slug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Slugs.........AAA........ close range What range are we talking ? Also is the .410 silenced as the report will still be bloody loud if not as loud, to any bystanders, as the 12. If the range is around 15-25 yards a heavy 12 bore load of 3`s will be fine. Another thing to remember is there will only be 20 pellets in a 16gm load of AAA`s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Use a moderated .22cf and just aim off if you are too close, just ensure your back stop which you would have to do with a .410 slug any way. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Trap or a snare? FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 I think it really does depend on how close we are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 if houses are the problem then a live capture trap is the best option. With a slug you just won't know quite where it will end up unless you have a very good backdrop. To me it wouldn't be safe and rather than slugs if a shotgun is an option at close range you would be better off with somthing between no 1 and no 3 but you would need to be very close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 I'd build some kind of makeshift backstop and bait the fox in front of it. Once he's confident, shoot him with the rimmy if you have it on your cert. Failing that just let him have a barrel of BB from your 12g, it's only one shot so unlikely to cause too many problems with the neighbours as long as it's not at 2AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Hunter, since you live in Sussex, I will boldly say, no chance of slugs! Use a 12 bore and AAA of something big like that, if you only have to fire one barrel, the neighbours wont know what woke them up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Al4x (dear friend) Don't knock till you try. A 3" .410 with AAA is devastating! With the tall shot column you often get 'balling' or cold welding of the pellets; result, instant slugs and flyers! In 1962, I shot a running hare at 62 yards (paced) with a 65mm Eley Fourlong .410 with No. 5 shot from a Webley bolt action. The hare had a hole in it you could push a pencil through! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Al4x (dear friend) Don't knock till you try. A 3" .410 with AAA is devastating! With the tall shot column you often get 'balling' or cold welding of the pellets; result, instant slugs and flyers! In 1962, I shot a running hare at 62 yards (paced) with a 65mm Eley Fourlong .410 with No. 5 shot from a Webley bolt action. the hare had a hole in it you could push a pencil through! No offence, but why in the name of god would you attempt such a shot in the first place? ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Al4x (dear friend) Don't knock till you try. A 3" .410 with AAA is devastating! With the tall shot column you often get 'balling' or cold welding of the pellets; result, instant slugs and flyers! In 1962, I shot a running hare at 62 yards (paced) with a 65mm Eley Fourlong .410 with No. 5 shot from a Webley bolt action. the hare had a hole in it you could push a pencil through! No offence, but why in the name of god would you attempt such a shot in the first place? ZB I was raw and 15 years old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Fair enough, I think we've all been there, but it sounded more like advice than an anecdotal case. Dont think this would be a proper course of action ever, unless you want to chase a wounded shrieking hare across the fields. Please remember that you are posting to someone who is asking for advice, who may take your post as gospel that it is ok to fire at anything with a .410 at more than extreme range. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 We had been talking CLOSE range. I advised against slugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 My 12g Hushpower puts a decent hole in things and can hardly be heard inside the household i am shooting for at the moment incase you can borrow one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted August 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Thanks very much for all the replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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