Guest cookoff013 Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 Asking for a friend of a friend. is it easy to do? worth it? Thinking about normal everyday reloads, nothing silly. just good old traditional normal speed, 125 or 158. next "might" be .44rem version. whats the crack? same as .357? easy, just thinking outloud. more than likely end up one or other calibre, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) Yes. It is easy as these are straight walled cases so you can use tungsten or titanium carbide dies. These mean that you do not need to lube your cases as you would lube rifle cases as rifle dies are steel and will mark and scratch. Carbide dies don't. Powders can be from Bullseye...I have a canister of that for sale here on P/W at present...say 2.7 grains and upwards or 2400 powder at 12.0 grains and upwards with in between charges of other powders from 5, 6, 7 or 8 grains. Bullseye is good as you get more loads to each canister. As seven thousand grains make one pound in weight you'll get a lot of reloads using Bullseye. Clearly your charge must be such that the bullet has enough "oomph" to exit the barrel of your lever action carbine or Ruger bolt action carbine. .44 Magnum is the same except that you wouldn't really use Bullseye. The different between the two is in simple terms like filling a pint glass with beer and filling a litre glass with beer. Other than the matter of proportion it's the same method for both. Edited September 28, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 Cheers. I take it the recipe needs to have some oompf to clear, i know bullseye is the ticket for revolvers in-38s but wondering if its worth it? Given that we can use 357 / 38spl. Privi plinking ammo, and all. Just wondering what powder / recipe will give no fuss, reloads. Price break might help. Ill right off equipment cost. The .44 even though the same reload process, was more thinking. I m thinking about availability too. I dont want to end up reloading for a friend, and a friend of a friend. If 44 is really worth it, or i sink the equipment £ in plinking ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 60 / 70p in it respectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 Very easy. In fact i made a batch 30 minutes ago,but for a LBR. A cheap and easy load is 3 grains of bullseye with a 158gn bullet (i cast them my own). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) I reload .38spl with bullseye powder, for my underlever 158 gr lead semi round nose bullet, 3 gr of bullseye. (I know people who go lower 2.7-2.8 gr of bulseye.) Without digging out the receipts for the components and taking into account that I use brass that I have already shot, I think it works out around 8-10p a cartridge. Should add it has been quite a while since I bought components, so presumably the price has gone up. Edited September 28, 2020 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windswept Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 Well, the rough cost to me per round would be about 16p (a primer is about 4p, powder 3p, lead head 8p, brass say 1p as I get many reloads per case). You can get that down by making your own heads and shopping about. But you also need to factor in equipment and time, which can be almost any price. If you shoot a fair bit though it does mean you don't have to keep going to an RFD to buy ammunition as you can hold any amount of parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 Ok. Thats some saving. Privi 38 / 357 is £57 /100 ******* homeload 16p And 44rem is £70/100 Pricebreak might make it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 In addition to my earlier post i also have a 44 underlever and load for this too. I found Bullseye is far too fast burning for the 44 and instead use 8gns Ramshot True Blue with a homecast 200gn bullet. Again its cheap as chips and you can shoot centrefire calibres for rimfire money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 .38/357 is probably THE easiest to load for and also one of the cheapest, especially if you cast your own bullets - I would guess I load .357 for my Winchester 94ae for around £8-9 a hundred. If you don't over crimp your rounds and use typical "cowboy" loads the cases will last for ages, dozens of reloads. A tub of Unique powder for £40 will make 1,500 rounds at 4.5 grains each giving around 1,050 fps with a cast lead 158gn bullet. Primers £42.50 per 1,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, 1066 said: .38/357 is probably THE easiest to load for and also one of the cheapest, especially if you cast your own bullets - I would guess I load .357 for my Winchester 94ae for around £8-9 a hundred. If you don't over crimp your rounds and use typical "cowboy" loads the cases will last for ages, dozens of reloads. A tub of Unique powder for £40 will make 1,500 rounds at 4.5 grains each giving around 1,050 fps with a cast lead 158gn bullet. Primers £42.50 per 1,000. The cost for reloafing both is almost peanuts. Unique was the burnrate i was looking for. Bullseye/ba10 is fast and cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughshooter Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 20 hours ago, cookoff013 said: Ok. Thats some saving. Privi 38 / 357 is £57 /100 ******* homeload 16p And 44rem is £70/100 Pricebreak might make it! BA10 is your best friend and I think you have some experience of that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) Just knocked up a couple of hundred 158gn bullets from scrap airgun pellets from our 10m range. These are for my .357 Westlake revolver and my .357 Winchester rifle. I size the revolver bullets to .356 and the one for the Winchester are shot as cast, just lubed with Alox. Edited September 29, 2020 by 1066 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lever357 Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 Yup, very easy to reload. I use Shellhouse Bullet Co 158gn bullets and have used Lovex DO32 and now use Viht N320, 3.5 grain. Straight wall cases, use carbide dies so don't have to lube and don't have to bother measuring length and trimming. I reckon I make them for £6 per 50 as opposed to £19 retail price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 For them as wants it I've a now surplus, pre-owned, used, Lyman single cavity mould #357446. First offer of £18.00 (that includes free postage) secures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 Ok. Cheers guys. Thanks for the heads up and info *carbide dies. Ill read up a little more, get some europe data. Then i will have a mooch, what equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) The Lee classic turret press kit is a good place to start, with the lee 4 set dies. I believe it's the .38 special dies that you can do both .38 spl and .357 mag reloads with, but you can't do both with the .357 mag dies. Edit- I'd invest in a Auto prime as well A good set of digital scales might be a good investment also. Edited October 1, 2020 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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