93%

[Yellow Bear]

2 minutes ago, amateur said:

It did help that we have had home deliveries for years, but yes, my wife plans ahead and stacks up orders and delivery slots, editing them as necessary nearer the time.

Being rural we kept a stock but this is impractical for things like milk, fresh veg, meat, and whilst we have local "farm shops" most of them are off the scale for cost and/or wont deliver.

[amateur]

1 minute ago, Yellow Bear said:

Being rural we kept a stock but this is impractical for things like milk, fresh veg, meat, and whilst we have local "farm shops" most of them are off the scale for cost and/or wont deliver.

Our farm shop delivers from 15 miles away for £4 with a minimum order of £50, so we order the meat and eggs from them once a month and the two supermarkets get used alternately with a subscription delivery cost of £5 - £7 a month, no matter how many deliveries

[Yellow Bear]

8 minutes ago, Mungler said:

I’ve seen the debate go round - anyone over 60 at one end of the spectrum and  anyone under 60 at the other. Now, it’s all academic because we are where we are. I do wonder what the history books will make of it all.

The wider economic impact is going to be off the charts and please don’t think we’re anywhere near seeing the start. The fact there are other countries are in the same boat will not lessen the impact.

No one who advocated lockdown (etc) dare moan about the lack of employment opportunities for them / their children / their grand children, how under resourced the police are, how the NHS needs more money, why their pensions aren’t what they should be etc etc. Oh hang on, of course they will because people are in the main clueless idiots.

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Fair comment, however, even with tier 3 lockdown all but the "hospitality" sector should be in operation so the next period up to Xmas should indicate where the infection rate increase in all age groups emanates.

This clueless idiot knows why his pension is not what it should be - some robbing b******* sorry prudent chancellor took a fair chunk of it in a windfall tax.

[Yellow Bear]

2 minutes ago, amateur said:

Our farm shop delivers from 15 miles away for £4 with a minimum order of £50, so we order the meat and eggs from them once a month and the two supermarkets get used alternately with a subscription delivery cost of £5 - £7 a month, no matter how many deliveries

All our locals have suspended subscription delivery for the time being. 

To be fair we have found one FS to deliver and that is Chatsworth, but I will leave it to you to estimate costs for produce and delivery but it would more than treble our bills and we already use a prize winning craft butcher who is not exactly the cheapest,

[amateur]

4 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said:

This clueless idiot knows why his pension is not what it should be - some robbing LABOUR b******* sorry prudent chancellor took a fair chunk of it in a windfall tax.

Just corrected that for you

[Mice!]

Another outbreak at a school, 8 pupils and 2 teachers. 

And yesterday amateur football was suspended across parts of Lancashire. 

 

But the rates are still coming down across most of Lancashire thankfully, hopefully part of Lancashire will be moved into tier 2 in the coming weeks,  but this shows that the tier system is still needed,  my thoughts at least.

[Mungler]

Yes and of those outbreaks at school, not one of those people will die or be affected. Why? Because they’re young.

[Raja Clavata]

My nephew brought it home from school. Brother and his missus now have it too. Been speaking to him all week and it's like I'm speaking to a stranger, he says he can't be bothered to do anything. Like you said, the nephew is fine, but they called an ambulance for the SiL an hour or so ago though, currently waiting to hear.

[JohnfromUK]

I hope they get over it.  We currently have the third confirmed 'couple' case in our village community.  Caught apparently through her work where others have also tested positive.  I believe that are at home unwell, but 'satisfactory'.

[Raja Clavata]

That's John. It's just the unknown really, my Brother says it comes and goes but wouldn't wish it on anyone. We thought the SiL had it in the first lock-down (she works at a school) and she had one day back then when she was a bit short of breath. I suspect she didn't have it then but all such ailments seem to go to her chest so it's not totally surprising that she is suffering the most at present.

[Mice!]

2 hours ago, Raja Clavata said:

My nephew brought it home from school. Brother and his missus now have it too. Been speaking to him all week and it's like I'm speaking to a stranger, he says he can't be bothered to do anything. Like you said, the nephew is fine, but they called an ambulance for the SiL an hour or so ago though, currently waiting to hear.

Hope she recovers quickly with no lasting damage. 

 

[Mice!]

On 09/12/2020 at 19:49, Mungler said:

Yes and of those outbreaks at school, not one of those people will die or be affected. Why? Because they’re young.

According to the news this evening they are going to start mass testing at schools around London and Kent they said, because the pupils can and do spread this, giving it teachers and taking it home.

There were also questions raised about London's tier level but I'm sure London won't go up to level 3.

[Mungler]

Gotta love the ONS, main link here: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundupdeathsandhealth/2020-06-26

Highlights :

Approximately one third of people with Coronavirus present as asymptotic.

The leading cause of death in September 2020 was dementia and Alzheimer’s disease in England (accounting for 11.2% of all deaths) and in Wales (11.1% of all deaths). The coronavirus (COVID-19) did not feature in the top 10 leading causes of death in September 2020, neither in England nor in Wales.

It seems like students and teachers have little fear, unless they happen to be over 65 years of age and on a wobbly wicket or suffering from dementia. It still appears to me that we should be isolating the people who are likely to die from catching Corona and to let the people who won’t be scratched by it (eg the under 30’s) just crack on with herd immunity.

 

Edited December 11, 2020 by Mungler

[Raja Clavata]

I agree but it seems like such is the general hysteria about it that a lot of people are hitting the panic button once a positive test is returned which is really putting a strain on the NHS and ambulance services. Its one of the backfire side effects to the way the government have handled their messaging around this.

That is not to suggest it's a trivial disease, by all accounts it's a weird one and the very nature of it (cyclic symptoms) leads to anxiety in some.