old man Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Does anyone have first hand knowledge of these guns please? I am considering changing my AA S410Xtra SL as the weight is telling now. It's a minefield additionally as I am not a fan of regulators, just looking to save some weight. Not sure at the moment if the concept can be unregulated so anything considered. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Hello, what about a sling and use shooting sticks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 Do that already opp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 @Fisheruk has a fac brocock I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, old man said: Do that already opp. Hello,ok so your looking for a lighter FAC PCP than the Air Arms which is about 6.5/7llb ?? The Concept weighs about the same, you need something like my FX Veminator MK 1 in FAC , a tad over 5 llbs, ? in 22 FAC you should get about 80/100 shots at 28 ft llb, I get 160 plus in sub 12 22 Edited May 3, 2021 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello,ok so your looking for a lighter FAC PCP than the Air Arms which is about 6.5/7llb ?? The Concept weighs about the same, you need something like my FX Veminator MK 1 in FAC , a tad over 5 llbs, ? in 22 FAC you should get about 80/100 shots at 28 ft llb, I get 160 plus in sub 12 22 Thanks opp, one on the looking list but a quick look says only 20/22 fpe from a .22? Edited May 3, 2021 by old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, old man said: Thanks opp, one on the looking list but a quick look says only 20/22 fpe from a .22? Hello, go on the UK airgun forum and contact a chap called the Logun-ator (Mick) and he will tell you what can be done on power with the Verminators , he's an expert on loguns and FX air rifles, I think a sub 12 like mine can be up graded to a FAC but once done it stays FAC although I maybe wrong , let me know how you get on ?, FX do some new rifles in FAC and some a light compared to AA and Brocock , let me know how you get on, cheers Edited May 3, 2021 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mice! said: @Fisheruk has a fac brocock I think? My FAC is an FX Verminator Mk1, runs at about 24ft/lb. I get 100+ shots per fill. It’s.22. Edited May 3, 2021 by Fisheruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fisheruk said: My FAC is an FX Verminator Mk1, runs at about 24ft/lb. I get 100+ shots per fill. It’s.22. Hello, I have the same in sub 12 and wondered if they can be made to shoot FAC ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, I have the same in sub 12 and wondered if they can be made to shoot FAC ? I’m sure they can but the short barrel limits the power. I find 24 is just s great. Any further distance I’d use my rimfires Edited May 3, 2021 by Fisheruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Fisheruk said: I’m sure they can but the short barrel limits the power. I find 24 is just s great. Any further distance I’d use my rimfires Hello, 24/28 ft llb would be enough for me, I have a 22 LR as well, I might contact logun Mick to see what costs as TVP said I could have one on my ticket, cheers Edited May 3, 2021 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 8 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, 24/28 ft llb would be enough for me, I have a 22 LR as well, I might contact logun Mick to see what costs as TVP said I could have one on my ticket, cheers As you know you can manually turn the power down. 1/2 = 17 ft/lb. Low = 10.5 ft/lb. I don’t change the power because I only use it for hunting and it does alter the POA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Fisheruk said: As you know you can manually turn the power down. 1/2 = 17 ft/lb. Low = 10.5 ft/lb. I don’t change the power because I only use it for hunting and it does alter the POA. Hello, if I had this done to my FX I would just get it done on 24 ft llb as mick advised, will have to apply to TVP, I have another sub 12 PCP to use for my usual ratting pest control, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Thanks guys, still thinking on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 If you use a light weight .22 pellet like a jsb rs at 13.4 grns 24 fpe gets you to around 880 fps which is plenty fast enough for a flat trajectory and plenty of power for anything other than wildebeest . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 On 04/05/2021 at 18:15, Ultrastu said: If you use a light weight .22 pellet like a jsb rs at 13.4 grns 24 fpe gets you to around 880 fps which is plenty fast enough for a flat trajectory and plenty of power for anything other than wildebeest . This 👍. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 On 03/05/2021 at 22:58, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, 24/28 ft llb would be enough for me, I have a 22 LR as well, I might contact logun Mick to see what costs as TVP said I could have one on my ticket, cheers Hello, after contacting Mick the cost and change over to FAC is not worth doing, so it is a matter of buying an original FAC air rifle if TVP approve, I will look to sell the FX in due course, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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