ninjaferret Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 I have a few paper cased cartridges, are they worth anything ? ELEY HYMAX 5's - 9 of KYNOCH PRIMAX 5's - 1 of AZOT 5's - 4 of ELEY FOURTEEN .410 5s - 14 of 2" ELEY KYNOCH .410 6s 5 of2 1/2" ELEY KYNOCH .410 6s 1 of 2" And 3 HOLLAND & HOLLAND 12g 7's All help appreciated, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 It is the Hymax in paper that is the cherry in your mixture. Then the Primax. The rest are commonplace. I know nothing about the Azot ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaferret Posted June 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: It is the Hymax in paper that is the cherry in your mixture. Then the Primax. The rest are commonplace. I know nothing about the Azot ones. Really, please tell me more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: It is the Hymax in paper that is the cherry in your mixture. Then the Primax. The rest are commonplace. I know nothing about the Azot ones. I’m surprised. I would have thought the Primax would be the more desirable of those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, ninjaferret said: Really, please tell me more. Simply I'd guess that in numbers alone for every x thousand Primax or y thousand .410 that were loaded at Witton there were maybe only a few hundred Hymax loaded. So the numbers unfired that survive will be less. Visit your local gunshop in 2021. For every box of Grand Prix or Impax or Hull Cartridge Company equivalent how many boxes of today's Hymax or Hull's Hulmax have they? Primax back in its day was fairly commonplace. The same reason why "other ranks" uniforms of pre-WWI are usually worth more than officers uniforms of the same era. Officers bought their uniforms. When they went out of current issue or pattern they packed them in a trunk and sent then home. Other ranks were issued their uniforms. When they went out of current issue or pattern they went back to a depot and were cut up for salvage to be sold as clothmakers "shoddy" Edited June 17, 2021 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 But the Primax is a much older cartridge. When I started shooting at the beginning of the sixties the Primax was already obsolete, ie: not in the shops. I used to buy Hymax for coastal fowling until well into the seventies. I have no idea when either was discontinued, but I always thought of Primax as a pre-war cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaferret Posted June 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 Would anyone hazard a guess to their worth ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 Have you got any pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaferret Posted June 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 Hope these help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 I used these cartridges in the 1960s my records show they were loaded with Nobel 2 and 3 powder and they sold for£3-9s-4d per 100 another cartridge that was common at the same time was Alphamax and sold for£3-16s-10d Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, Feltwad said: I used these cartridges in the 1960s my records show they were loaded with Nobel 2 and 3 powder and they sold for£3-9s-4d per 100 another cartridge that was common at the same time was Alphamax and sold for£3-16s-10d Feltwad That’s right, the Hymax was a slightly cheaper 1 1/4 ounce cartridge than Alphamax, cheaper case with lower brass, hence I bought Hymax. Around the same time regular Grand Prix was maybe about £2-2s-0d per 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 Were Azot Russian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaferret Posted June 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 So any ideas on what their worth ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 Worth? As a friend once said that depends, the worth, if you are asking as the buyer or asking as the seller. Truth told I've no idea and AFAIK PW doesn't allow encourage valuation threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 10 hours ago, ninjaferret said: So any ideas on what their worth ? Much less than you would like them to be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaferret Posted June 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, London Best said: Much less than you would like them to be! I'm not bothered either way, just interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, ninjaferret said: I'm not bothered either way, just interest. Just joking with you. I don’t think the Hymax would be of much interest to a collector as from the pictures they look in poor condition and swollen....maybe even been reloaded. The Primax, being older and rolled closure is more collectible but again not great condition and they are not uncommon. Just my take on it from the photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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