JKD Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 minute ago, chrisjpainter said: Very much a 2-tier tournament this year. Scotland, Ireland and France will fight it out for the championship and everyone else will fight it out to avoid being bottom. That can't have helped. I'm unconvinced by Van Poortvliet, Hassell-Collins was anonymous for large chunks and Farrell's kicking was way off the mark. Marchant looked the best of our backs by a country mile. Agree totally. We, the spectators, expect so much more from any England team, but this current team are in transition and continually looking to improve. It appears that this tournament is being used to create the team expected ? 🤷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 hours ago, chrisjpainter said: Very much a 2-tier tournament this year. Scotland, Ireland and France will fight it out for the championship and everyone else will fight it out to avoid being bottom. We looked more convincing than France did against Italy? 2 hours ago, chrisjpainter said: That can't have helped. I'm unconvinced by Van Poortvliet, Hassell-Collins was anonymous for large chunks and Farrell's kicking was way off the mark. Marchant looked the best of our backs by a country mile. I thought Van did better than last week, England definitely kicked better than last week, I thought some of Farrells kicks were spot on pinning Italy back, we just kicked away too much possession I thought. I'm not sure if we had wingers on the pitch, but Ollie definitely had a good game, but then they used him like they do Manu crashing into the defence. 2 hours ago, JKD said: appears that this tournament is being used to create the team expected I'd say so with just having changed the coach so close to the tournament, the focus has to be on the World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, Mice! said: I'd say so with just having changed the coach so close to the tournament, the focus has to be on the World Cup. A bit like athletes building up to the Olympics. Let's hope this plan works 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid rich Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Mice! said: I'd say so with just having changed the coach so close to the tournament, the focus has to be on the World Cup. Shouldn’t they have changed Eddie 2 years ago ? RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 Great discussion on England's tactics from John Barclay... Six Nations 2023: Former Scotland captain John Barclay is "confused" by England's attack - BBC Sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 hours ago, rapid rich said: Shouldn’t they have changed Eddie 2 years ago They should, but they didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: Great discussion on England's tactics from John Barclay... Six Nations 2023: Former Scotland captain John Barclay is "confused" by England's attack - BBC Sport Absolutely, I couldn't understand why they kept kicking in the 22, if you have advantage and its a free shot, fair enough, but like they say, apply the pressure, keep the ball and rack up the points. Wales will be interesting 😁 I just hope they don't do what they normally do, kick high balls to Wales back 3, play like they did in the first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 Wales v England, it should be good, the Welsh hate us and its always a cracking atmosphere in Cardiff, unless your English 😅😅 Wales haven't won a game and I hope it stays that way, but there's no chance of them not being up for this 💪💪💪 But I'm in work tomorrow so no beer's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 Right. Are we all set to be confused by England's tactics again? LLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET READY TO GRUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 I wish we could play with the dynamism of Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 Interesting,, both teams ceem a bit "stuck".....the game they play is outdated,some of the players past their best and an unwillingness to stick with anything new long enough to make a difference....instead of a gradual evolve to keep pace they now need a rapid transition which is almost impossible.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 On 12/02/2023 at 17:02, chrisjpainter said: Very much a 2-tier tournament this year. Scotland, Ireland and France will fight it out for the championship and everyone else will fight it out to avoid being bottom. That can't have helped. I'm unconvinced by Van Poortvliet, Hassell-Collins was anonymous for large chunks and Farrell's kicking was way off the mark. Marchant looked the best of our backs by a country mile. England were very poor again, why is Farrell at Fly Half over Smith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: England were very poor again, why is Farrell at Fly Half over Smith? Because he's better, not a liability in defence and the team is playing better rugby. Two wins now, I'd say England are making progress and the score reflected the performance, England looked great in defence, Wales only scored off an intercepted pass and England missed 3 kicks which is unusual. Wales look like they might get the wooden spoon 🤣🤣 I'd still say England kicked again when it should have been run. I sort of watched the second half of Italy v Ireland, Italy look the best they ever have and Ireland didn't simply smash them. England v France and Ireland look like they'll be great games, but so does Scotland v France and Ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 Well done England best team out there for some reason we kept kicking the ball to one of the best fullbacks out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Rim Fire said: Well done England best team out there for some reason we kept kicking the ball to one of the best fullbacks out there I thought Jonathan Davies on comms was going to have an aneurism over that. Incredible levels of persistent stupidity! They virtually awarded man of the match to Steward themselves. Although at times England's kicking wasn't much more intellectually inspired. Edited February 26, 2023 by chrisjpainter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Mice! said: Because he's better, not a liability in defence and the team is playing better rugby. Two wins now, I'd say England are making progress and the score reflected the performance, England looked great in defence, Wales only scored off an intercepted pass and England missed 3 kicks which is unusual. Wales look like they might get the wooden spoon 🤣🤣 I'd still say England kicked again when it should have been run. I sort of watched the second half of Italy v Ireland, Italy look the best they ever have and Ireland didn't simply smash them. England v France and Ireland look like they'll be great games, but so does Scotland v France and Ireland. Sorry don't agree, he creates nothing just kicks possession away and his place kicking is a shocking liability at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) I got to disagree with as well England have beat the two worst sides in the the six nations they lost to Scotland and got Ireland and France to come if they beat one of them teams then yes they are progressing I don't fancy our chances against Italy at the moment 11 hours ago, Mice! said: Two wins now, I'd say England are making progress and the score reflected the performance, England looked great in defence, Wales only scored off an intercepted pass and England missed 3 kicks which is unusual. Edited February 26, 2023 by Rim Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Reading a few comments,,,,any truth that the 3,,15 sec subs at end of game pocket 25k.....and certainly earning your first cap in such circumstance must disappoint....or is this how media rugby is now played...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Rim Fire said: I got to disagree with as well England have beat the two worst sides in the the six nations they lost to Scotland and got Ireland and France to come if they beat one of them teams then yes they are progressing I don't fancy our chances against Italy at the moment You can only beat one team at a time 😁 They should have beaten Scotland but didn't finish the game off, and Scotland seemed to want it more. It was a good strong performance against Wales, but for the intercept it was a great display in defence which the coaches and players will be happy with. Neither France or Ireland were comfortable against Italy so I'm looking forward to those games, they'll really show where England are at. Certainly the closest tournament for a long time. 1 hour ago, millrace said: Reading a few comments,,,,any truth that the 3,,15 sec subs at end of game pocket 25k.....and certainly earning your first cap in such circumstance must disappoint....or is this how media rugby is now played...... There was something said in the commentary about they'll get their match day bonus. Meant to add, who would ever thought Italy would be a tough game for Wales, 11th of March, pizza and Peroni 😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Well done the linesman on insisting it was red!! Well done medic on insisting on hia... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 What a brilliant game unlucky Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Caught some of the first half, then the second, a close game right to the death, Scotland are almost their own worst enemy, I was thinking just take a tackle and recycle the ball, but they want the high pressure rugby, great game both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 The team sheets are in and finally we'll get to see what Smith can do when he doesn't have Farrell slowing him down. Whether it works or not, I don't mind, but at least they're trying it, although I'd like to see him get more than one game against a very tough opposition. For Wales, is Gatland trying to turn the clock back 5 years? Rhys Webb back at 9, Liam Williams and Wyn Jones both come in too. Wales' lack of a production line might be leading them to the wooden spoon; beating this Italy side in Italy isn't going to be easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 39 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: The team sheets are in and finally we'll get to see what Smith can do when he doesn't have Farrell slowing him down. Whether it works or not, I don't mind, but at least they're trying it, although I'd like to see him get more than one game against a very tough opposition. For Wales, is Gatland trying to turn the clock back 5 years? Rhys Webb back at 9, Liam Williams and Wyn Jones both come in too. Wales' lack of a production line might be leading them to the wooden spoon; beating this Italy side in Italy isn't going to be easy I've just been looking at things and thought Owen out and Smith in was smoke and mirrors! I can see it back firing big time, he's too much of a defensive risk, I can see me shouting at the telly lots. And Italy v Wales, come on Italy 🇮🇹 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 Im calling.....win for italy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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