Steel explained, simply

[wymberley]

1 hour ago, rbrowning2 said:

will say if your gun is not steel proofed your insurance is invalid!!!  Then Clay grounds will ban non steel proofed guns.

Surely that only applies if you are using/intending to use HP cartridges. Would that be necessary on a clay range - I haven't a clue?

[Scully]

32 minutes ago, wymberley said:

Surely that only applies if you are using/intending to use HP cartridges. Would that be necessary on a clay range - I haven't a clue?

I keep reading on here that many clay grounds won’t accept steel shot. If so then the problem won’t exist. 

[Johnny English]

On 12/11/2023 at 22:25, Sweet11-87 said:

it would seem they only make em in a 4,5 now but i bought a fair few and they are stamped with a big 3 on em.

I also have a slab of the same in 3's but when you cut one open it has 4's inside anyway when you check the shot size. What is also strange I had a single box of eley grand prix 4's and they were proper 4's inside. The box says 3's but the shot was the same as everyone else's 4's. They appear to have corrected in now though as they now advertise them as 4's.

[wymberley]

2 hours ago, Johnny English said:

I also have a slab of the same in 3's but when you cut one open it has 4's inside anyway when you check the shot size. What is also strange I had a single box of eley grand prix 4's and they were proper 4's inside. The box says 3's but the shot was the same as everyone else's 4's. They appear to have corrected in now though as they now advertise them as 4's.

This reflects the advantages of the case made above in the pinned threads that shot sizes should be given as a measurement, say, in mms

[Krico woodcock]

I only started using steel this year, as it has been law to use it over wetlands since 1st September this year. (Rep of Ireland) Gamebore super steel 4's. Put the shot in front of the duck,  it will fold the same as been hit with lead.  Don't think or ponder too much about it . Just shoot the duck!.. 

 

[Johnny English]

1 hour ago, wymberley said:

This reflects the advantages of the case made above in the pinned threads that shot sizes should be given as a measurement, say, in mms

Absolutely, same goes for lead as well, all the difference between uk and continental sizes, just state it in mm then no ambiguity. I like a 2.75mm for game shooting nice compromise of pattern volume and hitting power for average game shooting.