salmonrod Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 Hi all as anyone out there got any idea where i can get some TPS 28 GUAGE STEEL WADS THEY ARE LIKE ROCKING HORSE S*IT. claygame hav nt had them for what seems like years and Ballistic Products wont do international shipping,can get all other wads so dont know what the problem is with these wads. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 Sorry don't have TPS but it's the same for the ten bore, even overshot and nitro cards not available. just bought a punch to make my own overshot cards and will be using plastic under a fibre shotcup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonrod Posted December 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Hi yes had several punches for years for overshot and nitro cards but cant understand the situation with these TPS wads was told it was due to the war with Ukraine/Russia but have my douts.Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Have you tried using a liner inside a standard lead wad? I use 410 plastic case when loading tss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenman Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 I know there is a move away from plastic wads etc but it wouldn’t be hard for clay and game to make plastic wads in the gauges that are really needed in 10g, 28g etc they would make a mint given how hard it is to source the above… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 On 14/12/2023 at 17:14, edenman said: I know there is a move away from plastic wads etc but it wouldn’t be hard for clay and game to make plastic wads in the gauges that are really needed in 10g, 28g etc they would make a mint given how hard it is to source the above… It’s the cost of the tooling and setting up. You would need to sell tens of thousands to get your investment back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenman Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Dave at kelton said: It’s the cost of the tooling and setting up. You would need to sell tens of thousands to get your investment back Surely the way things are it’s a worthy investment? I’d suspect they would sell very quickly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 11:10, salmonrod said: Hi all as anyone out there got any idea where i can get some TPS 28 GUAGE STEEL WADS THEY ARE LIKE ROCKING HORSE S*IT. claygame hav nt had them for what seems like years and Ballistic Products wont do international shipping,can get all other wads so dont know what the problem is with these wads. Cheers. What load are trying to put together? Salmonrod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rws-89 Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 try pressure detectives buy and sell on facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonrod Posted December 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 Hi i want to load steel and TSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, salmonrod said: Hi i want to load steel and TSS I have a few TPS that I use to load TSS duplex. I can generally get hold of enough for my needs so if you’re after enough for a Box or 2 I maybe able to help you out. If you’re loading steel for ducks, or even TSS I’d recommend looking at the Guilandi H41. I have 6 or so loads that I tested with LilGun, H110, and Lovex Do37.2 using that wad, TSS, steel and Mylar when appropriate. The H41 is the wad used in the original HeviShot loads and all BPI data before the TPS 28 came around. I completely understand that you may want to go your own way etc but the offer is there. Bernard Edited December 18, 2023 by Bernard Bad England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonrod Posted December 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 Hi Bernard thats great would love some of them wads didn t know about them if you pm me i will sort the money out. Thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 49 minutes ago, salmonrod said: Hi Bernard thats great would love some of them wads didn t know about them if you pm me i will sort the money out. Thank you very much. I’ve just reread my post. I typed it out in a mad rush earlier. I meant to say I have a some TPS28 and I can sort you out with enough for a box or two if needed. A more reliable source might be a lad called Mark Watson in the TSS UK Facebook group. He gets batches in. The other wad I was talking about is technically a lead wad. It needs care but I’ve been very successful with it and varying thickness Mylar wraps. 1 minute ago, Bernard said: I’ve just reread my post. I typed it out in a mad rush earlier. I meant to say I have a some TPS28 and I can sort you out with enough for a box or two if needed. A more reliable source might be a lad called Mark Watson in the TSS UK Facebook group. He gets batches in. The other wad I was talking about is technically a lead wad. It needs care but I’ve been very successful with it and varying thickness Mylar wraps. The Guilandi H41 are in stock at clay and game: https://www.claygame.co.uk/28ga-gualandi-wads-pd67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonrod Posted December 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 Hi Bernard would be very gratefull for any TPS28 WADS you can spare just let me know Cheers mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Posted December 24, 2023 Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) I’ve just seen this. I don’t have any notifications set up for threads and I’m hardly ever on PW. I get notifications for PM. Send me a message if you want to set something up. 4 minutes ago, Bernard said: I’ve just seen this. I don’t have any notifications set up for threads and I’m hardly ever on PW. I get notifications for PM. Send me a message if you want to set something up. Also here is tested data for a 21gram TSS load in a Guilandi H41 with a Mylar Wrap. Has 3/8” of fillers in the base. It’s in a Winchester HS case. I’d up the charge to 32grains in a Ched or Fiocchi and call it good. Edited December 24, 2023 by Bernard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Posted December 24, 2023 Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bernard said: I’ve just seen this. I don’t have any notifications set up for threads and I’m hardly ever on PW. I get notifications for PM. Send me a message if you want to set something up. Also here is tested data for a 21gram TSS load in a Guilandi H41 with a Mylar Wrap. Has 3/8” of fillers in the base. It’s in a Winchester HS case. I’d up the charge to 32grains in a Ched or Fiocchi and call it good. I also have tested data for various duplex loads with no fillers in that wad. With a few different powder options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Posted December 24, 2023 Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 Recovered H41 wads after firing with TSS7.5 under copper coated steel no2. First showing the base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Posted December 24, 2023 Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 Then the wall of the wad. Wad pinholed with large steel but did not get through the Mylar. I have recovered the Mylar as well. I’ll look for those photos. It was fired with 12mil Mylar. It’s thick and it’s used by hobby craft types to make stencils with a cricut machine. A search for cricut Mylar will yield results on Amazon. You can see n the Mylar that where it was doubled up, the steel shot bridged and it creased the pressure causing run through of a single layer. I think there aren’t many who shoot steel 2s from a 28 bore like I do so the problem is unique. I have shared this data with many and they’re shooting 3s or 4s with no issues whatsoever. Needless to say the TSS is very well protected by the Mylar as seen in the phots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Posted December 24, 2023 Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) Tested data. By me. No fillers. LilGun, H110 and LovexDo37.2. The Lovex is very slightly over pressure and needs to be dropped by a grain. The speed is so good that it would be an excellent load at 27-28grains. H110 could go up to 30grains. There’s still room in the case. Or increase the payload by upping the TSS ratio. When I tested I was using thinner Mylar. Not really sufficient for “big” steel though. Edited December 24, 2023 by Bernard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonrod Posted December 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 Hi Bernard are these loads finished with RTO or crimp and could you use overshot cards instead. Thanks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 29/12/2023 at 15:03, salmonrod said: Hi Bernard are these loads finished with RTO or crimp and could you use overshot cards instead. Thanks . They are all 6pt crimp finished. RTO will generally lower pressure a little so would be no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonrod Posted January 9 Author Report Share Posted January 9 Hi Bernard in the LIL Gun load how do you think they would fare with number 4 or number 5 steel instead of number 2s. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 some Tps wads occasionally come up on auction sites . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 On 09/01/2024 at 12:54, salmonrod said: Hi Bernard in the LIL Gun load how do you think they would fare with number 4 or number 5 steel instead of number 2s. Thanks. Completely fine to sub in smaller shot. sorry for the slow response. I’m an infrequent visitor to PW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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