amateur Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said: Again agreed, but if it can be filled, it can be unfilled, so why haven't the Tories done so, it's not like they haven't had time to do so. Unfortunately, the raft of employment laws would mitigate against that, and they are too damn slippery to be done for gross misconduct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, amateur said: Unfortunately, the raft of employment laws would mitigate against that, and they are too damn slippery to be done for gross misconduct. So the last 14 years is nothing to do with Tories ineptitude and is all labours fault? Like I said earlier, both Labour and the Tories are a virtual uni party, with very little to choose between them on the big issues, without drastic, radical change, the UK is doomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 15 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: So the last 14 years is nothing to do with Tories ineptitude and is all labours fault? Regrettably, the Conservative Party has not been the same since they had competent politicians such as Margaret Thatcher, Willie Whitelaw, Geoffrey Howe, Nigel Lawson, Leon Brittan, Lord Carrington to name but a few. They actually did make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red696 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, amateur said: Regrettably, the Conservative Party has not been the same since they had competent politicians such as Margaret Thatcher, Willie Whitelaw, Geoffrey Howe, Nigel Lawson, Leon Brittan, Lord Carrington to name but a few. They actually did make a difference. probably the only sensible post I’ve seen on this thread.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 7 minutes ago, amateur said: Regrettably, the Conservative Party has not been the same since they had competent politicians such as Margaret Thatcher, Willie Whitelaw, Geoffrey Howe, Nigel Lawson, Leon Brittan, Lord Carrington to name but a few. They actually did make a difference. Again agreed. Unfortunately, that's all in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, amateur said: Unfortunately, the raft of employment laws would mitigate against that, and they are too damn slippery to be done for gross misconduct. Didn't B Liar and co introduce most of these too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 56 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Didn't B Liar and co introduce most of these too? Oh yes. He did his best to screw up all future Conservative governments and, unfortunately, largely succeeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, amateur said: Regrettably, the Conservative Party has not been the same since they had competent politicians such as Margaret Thatcher, Willie Whitelaw, Geoffrey Howe, Nigel Lawson, Leon Brittan, Lord Carrington to name but a few. They actually did make a difference. There is much commentary about the general lack of brain power within both parties these days. Since Thatcher’s cabinet everything and everyone has been dumbed down - it’s everywhere; the way people speak, what’s on national television, what’s taught in schools. It’s now unfashionable to be posh or to have gone to Eton or Harrow etc. I watched a Sky documentary at the weekend about Led Zepplin - the world wide rock act of the 70’s. Their interviews were as though they were from a different planet to now - educated, articulate, intelligent and coherent. Only 50 years ago. Now watch an interview with any grime act or from the modern entertainment industry. Everyone has just got thicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 18 minutes ago, Mungler said: Everyone has just got thicker. Thanks to the general eradication of grammar schools - another Labour policy. It was one of the few ways that a working class lad could make his way up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 13 hours ago, Mungler said: There is much commentary about the general lack of brain power within both parties these days. Since Thatcher’s cabinet everything and everyone has been dumbed down - it’s everywhere; the way people speak, what’s on national television, what’s taught in schools. It’s now unfashionable to be posh or to have gone to Eton or Harrow etc. I watched a Sky documentary at the weekend about Led Zepplin - the world wide rock act of the 70’s. Their interviews were as though they were from a different planet to now - educated, articulate, intelligent and coherent. Only 50 years ago. Now watch an interview with any grime act or from the modern entertainment industry. Everyone has just got thicker. By design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 13 Author Report Share Posted March 13 keeping the proletariat in there place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 On 07/03/2024 at 13:18, TIGHTCHOKE said: Wasn't that Ed Balls? Now Sunak has done it, only worse now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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