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On 19/08/2024 at 08:58, retromlc said:

Send them to Bromley & Son.barrel blacking in Ashford Kent, they will sort them for you 

Highly recommended for all barrel work its what they specialise in ,and not silly money ,you can post just the barrels  Parcelforce 48   legally .

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15 hours ago, PeterHenry said:

Further update -

I rang up today and was told the work had been done. One very small gap was found in the brazing, but it was under the forend, roughly where the '3' is on Westleys photo - so nothing much to worry about in real terms.

No rust or water was found under the rib, so the muzzle was soldered back up (and is far more tidy for it as well).

So it's all a bit of a mystery really - but everything has checked out fine and my wallet isn't much lighter for the trouble either.

 

That is a good outcome. I had similar work done on a one decades ago. I can’t even remember which gun it was but relaying ribs wasn’t necessary. In that case there was a pinhole and when the barrels were put in the bath to be re blued the water got in so had to be drained.

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4 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, That is good Henry, a photo would be good to see finished work

Will do with pleasure the next time it comes out of the cabinet - despite it and its twin being the most used guns, they only fit in right at the back of the cabinet behind other guns, so it's always a bit of a faff...

3 hours ago, Dave at kelton said:

That is a good outcome. I had similar work done on a one decades ago. I can’t even remember which gun it was but relaying ribs wasn’t necessary. In that case there was a pinhole and when the barrels were put in the bath to be re blued the water got in so had to be drained.

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On 18/08/2024 at 18:23, PeterHenry said:

Hello All,

Please could somone more knowledgeable than me confirm what's going on here?

All photos taken today

Edit - AYA no2 / brazed barrels 

 

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Hi there,

The brown stuff. Is it rust? It looks like rosin to me. The natural flux we use to tin the ribs on. As it is a No.2 yes it should have "brazed" ribs.  But the muzzles were sealed with soft solder. That is what's on the end of your barrels. That grey stuff is is lead/tin solder which is used to hold the ribs on English guns. The muzzle is poorley soldered and just by re soldering the muzzle up that "should" stop that from happening again. No need to drill holes. Just warm over a blow lamp until hot to touch a few times will dry them out. How long depends how damp inside. Heating them will also expose the pin hole/s as the hot air under the ribs will want to escape and you'll find bubbling where the hot air is escaping. 

I'm not sure where you are but I'm on the M4 corridor. You are more than welcome to bring them in to me. 

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1 hour ago, Fil said:

Hi there,

The brown stuff. Is it rust? It looks like rosin to me. The natural flux we use to tin the ribs on. As it is a No.2 yes it should have "brazed" ribs.  But the muzzles were sealed with soft solder. That is what's on the end of your barrels. That grey stuff is is lead/tin solder which is used to hold the ribs on English guns. The muzzle is poorley soldered and just by re soldering the muzzle up that "should" stop that from happening again. No need to drill holes. Just warm over a blow lamp until hot to touch a few times will dry them out. How long depends how damp inside. Heating them will also expose the pin hole/s as the hot air under the ribs will want to escape and you'll find bubbling where the hot air is escaping. 

I'm not sure where you are but I'm on the M4 corridor. You are more than welcome to bring them in to me. 

Thanks - I'm in Cheshire, so a fair way away. But I appreciate the offer.

I always tend to use H G Hopkins, as they are in the next village and up until the last few years, made guns under their own name - with some work being done in Birmingham, and other work being done in the back of the shop in Sandbach by John Hopkins, who use to work for G & S Holloway.

It may well have been rosin - I'm completely naive about anything remotely to do with soldering / brazeing / etc. I only showed him the photos breifly, and mentioned that it had been taken out in some foul weather, including below the tide line last season. Also that the bead had been loose at one point - hence the checking under the rib on that count, and also re gaps in the braze. So I understood the holes to be so he could get a brush inside to clean out any rust / salt, etc - but thankfully that wasn't necessary.

He did the work at an extremely reasonable rate and it was ready the next day - so I've got no complaints whatsoever.

But yes, I very much agree with not takeing guns to gun shops if they need work done on them - like with watches, I always try to cut out the middleman and go straight to the person who knows what they are doing.

 

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On 23/08/2024 at 15:22, PeterHenry said:

Thanks - I'm in Cheshire, so a fair way away. But I appreciate the offer.

I always tend to use H G Hopkins, as they are in the next village and up until the last few years, made guns under their own name - with some work being done in Birmingham, and other work being done in the back of the shop in Sandbach by John Hopkins, who use to work for G & S Holloway.

It may well have been rosin - I'm completely naive about anything remotely to do with soldering / brazeing / etc. I only showed him the photos breifly, and mentioned that it had been taken out in some foul weather, including below the tide line last season. Also that the bead had been loose at one point - hence the checking under the rib on that count, and also re gaps in the braze. So I understood the holes to be so he could get a brush inside to clean out any rust / salt, etc - but thankfully that wasn't necessary.

He did the work at an extremely reasonable rate and it was ready the next day - so I've got no complaints whatsoever.

But yes, I very much agree with not takeing guns to gun shops if they need work done on them - like with watches, I always try to cut out the middleman and go straight to the person who knows what they are doing.

 

👍 Glad it's all sorted!

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