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1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

FITASC have made their point quite clear, they will NOT allow their accredited staff to work on a competitors set up. Simples.

If you see it as reducing choice for the shooter, so be it, I see it as strengthening the interest in FITASC Sporting, long may it continue.

I see it as more of FITASC shooting themselves in the foot. 

Accredited staff and grounds that are willing to hold FITASC events for the everyday individual are already dwindling. Threatening staff and grounds with a punitive ultimatum is a pretty stupid thing to do if their aim is to further grow the sport and ensure it's future in the UK. 

Steve Lovatt of Westfield and Garlands shooting grounds, who are a significant part of the FITASC scene in this part of the UK, has given FITASC events the boot following this announcement. He seems like a pretty principled man who won't soon forget this and being a farmer, I'm sure the more profitable super sporting and ESP events he can now hold in place of FITASC will be much preferable. 

It seems like its just some petty frenchmen throwing their toys out of the pram because some arab oil money is being spent on holding a super sporting event rather than a FITASC event. These high level, elite and ultra exclusive events will come and go but the staff and grounds that run the day to day events they have potentially alienated over this will be a bit harder to regain. 

The threat in the later part of the letter to shooters taking part in super sporting (most likely aimed at GD for endorsing the FMSC super sporting event) is pathetic. Do they really think that potentially making pro shooters who take part in super sporting events no longer welcome or eligible for FITASC events is strengthening the interest in FITASC? GD has a god like following amongst some in the UK and it would be really easy to alienate all of them by barring him from future FITASC events over this.  

Ultimately It's their ball and they can do what they like with it but they can't then complain when nobody wants to play with them anymore. 

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9 minutes ago, Poor Shot said:

I see it as more of FITASC shooting themselves in the foot. 

Accredited staff and grounds that are willing to hold FITASC events for the everyday individual are already dwindling. Threatening staff and grounds with a punitive ultimatum is a pretty stupid thing to do if their aim is to further grow the sport and ensure it's future in the UK. 

Steve Lovatt of Westfield and Garlands shooting grounds, who are a significant part of the FITASC scene in this part of the UK, has given FITASC events the boot following this announcement. He seems like a pretty principled man who won't soon forget this and being a farmer, I'm sure the more profitable super sporting and ESP events he can now hold in place of FITASC will be much preferable. 

It seems like its just some petty frenchmen throwing their toys out of the pram because some arab oil money is being spent on holding a super sporting event rather than a FITASC event. These high level, elite and ultra exclusive events will come and go but the staff and grounds that run the day to day events they have potentially alienated over this will be a bit harder to regain. 

The threat in the later part of the letter to shooters taking part in super sporting (most likely aimed at GD for endorsing the FMSC super sporting event) is pathetic. Do they really think that potentially making pro shooters who take part in super sporting events no longer welcome or eligible for FITASC events is strengthening the interest in FITASC? GD has a god like following amongst some in the UK and it would be really easy to alienate all of them by barring him from future FITASC events over this.  

Ultimately It's their ball and they can do what they like with it but they can't then complain when nobody wants to play with them anymore. 

Agreed

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5 hours ago, Poor Shot said:

I see it as more of FITASC shooting themselves in the foot. 

Accredited staff and grounds that are willing to hold FITASC events for the everyday individual are already dwindling. Threatening staff and grounds with a punitive ultimatum is a pretty stupid thing to do if their aim is to further grow the sport and ensure it's future in the UK. 

Steve Lovatt of Westfield and Garlands shooting grounds, who are a significant part of the FITASC scene in this part of the UK, has given FITASC events the boot following this announcement. He seems like a pretty principled man who won't soon forget this and being a farmer, I'm sure the more profitable super sporting and ESP events he can now hold in place of FITASC will be much preferable. 

It seems like its just some petty frenchmen throwing their toys out of the pram because some arab oil money is being spent on holding a super sporting event rather than a FITASC event. These high level, elite and ultra exclusive events will come and go but the staff and grounds that run the day to day events they have potentially alienated over this will be a bit harder to regain. 

The threat in the later part of the letter to shooters taking part in super sporting (most likely aimed at GD for endorsing the FMSC super sporting event) is pathetic. Do they really think that potentially making pro shooters who take part in super sporting events no longer welcome or eligible for FITASC events is strengthening the interest in FITASC? GD has a god like following amongst some in the UK and it would be really easy to alienate all of them by barring him from future FITASC events over this.  

Ultimately It's their ball and they can do what they like with it but they can't then complain when nobody wants to play with them anymore. 

Agreed. Its utter nonsense. 

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ELB was perfectly within his rights to bring this to our attention and we will see what will happen. I expect expensive  Fitasc sporting sadly will decline even further in the U.K. as ground owners and shooters will vote with their feet.

 

6 hours ago, Charliedog said:

Agreed

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From the CPSA

Dear Members

You may be aware of the recent letter regarding Super Sporting, issued by FITASC Paris. After review of the facts, discussion with fellow associations and FITASC Paris, we cannot agree with the FITASC position on this matter, considering the many differences between the two sporting disciplines.

We can therefore confirm to our members, grounds, and shooters, that our position and plans for Super Sporting have not changed. We will continue to support and promote the discipline, with the goal as always to bring more people into our sport of clay shooting across the various clay target disciplines.

Finally, we can confirm to our members, competitive shooters, course setters, grounds & referees that any ban or sanction issued by FITASC specific to this matter, as quoted in FITASC communication (4th September 2024), will not be recognised for our competitions organised by the CPSA.

CPSA Board of Directors

Iain Parker CEO – CPSA

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