TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 11, 2024 Report Share Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, oowee said: I rest my case. Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 11, 2024 Report Share Posted September 11, 2024 17 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Good. 🤣 👍 I have some gardening to get on with 😁 and last nights debate analysis to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 11, 2024 Report Share Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, oowee said: And yet we choose to have choose to give up our influence on our own future. 🤣 It's clear immigration has increased directly as a result of Brexit. Its clear that our economy has declined as a direct result of Brexit. It's clear our personal freedoms are restricted as a direct result of Brexit. I rest my case. I don't accept any of those points It's clear we had no ability to influence our own future while we were part of the EU . Our hands were tied in every way. And we were paying shed loads of money for the privilege Immigration has increased its true but how do you link that to Brexit? The world economy has declined but how you link that to Brexit is clearly not supported. What personal freedoms have we lost? None that I can see I rest my case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 11, 2024 Report Share Posted September 11, 2024 1 hour ago, oowee said: It's clear our personal freedoms are restricted as a direct result of Brexit, Starmbahnfuhrer 2TK Corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 11, 2024 Report Share Posted September 11, 2024 2 hours ago, Vince Green said: I don't accept any of those points It's clear we had no ability to influence our own future while we were part of the EU . Our hands were tied in every way. And we were paying shed loads of money for the privilege Immigration has increased its true but how do you link that to Brexit? The world economy has declined but how you link that to Brexit is clearly not supported. What personal freedoms have we lost? None that I can see I rest my case Read the above evidence. Look at the breakdown of stats from home office on immigration and OBR or Bof E for economy. Personal freedoms are obvious, we cannot go and visit the EU for longer than 3 months, we cannot work there, we cannot let your kids there on exchange. Present some evidence to the contrary if you have some. 1 hour ago, Penelope said: Corrected. No idea what you are on about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted September 11, 2024 Report Share Posted September 11, 2024 5 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: SOLD away not GAVE away, we as a country took the money and now are reaping the results, I wonder if anyone involved in the bloody awful sell offs is still alive with a conscience? Not prepared to wrangle over peanuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted September 11, 2024 Report Share Posted September 11, 2024 3 hours ago, oowee said: Personal freedoms are obvious, we cannot go and visit the EU for longer than 3 months, we cannot work there, we cannot let your kids there on exchange. Sounds like real first world problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 11, 2024 Report Share Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, 12gauge82 said: Sounds like real first world problems. I know what you mean but exchange and movement breaks down the them and us culture. What a shame that many cannot now retire to the sun and enjoy the lifestyle available to their parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted September 11, 2024 Report Share Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, oowee said: I know what you mean but exchange and movement breaks down the them and us culture. What a shame that many cannot now retire to the sun and enjoy the lifestyle available to their parents. I agree, I've got a while to go to retirement but I was planning a potential move to France when I got there. If only being an EU member could go back to being a trade block with similar economic countries, I think the UK population would jump at it. We simply do not want to give up being a sovereign country, regardless of financial benefits or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 11, 2024 Report Share Posted September 11, 2024 8 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: I agree, I've got a while to go to retirement but I was planning a potential move to France when I got there. If only being an EU member could go back to being a trade block with similar economic countries, I think the UK population would jump at it. We simply do not want to give up being a sovereign country, regardless of financial benefits or not. 👍 Except the sovereign bit 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted September 11, 2024 Report Share Posted September 11, 2024 1 hour ago, oowee said: 👍 Except the sovereign bit 😁 Always enjoy a debate with you 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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