Dave-G Posted Friday at 17:56 Report Share Posted Friday at 17:56 (edited) I keep seeing so called free energy generators in my FB feeds - some reciprocating spring driven and some motor driven from the energy produced by an alternator. My mind tells me its horse twaddle - but could it be factual and its been kept from us? Edited Friday at 17:57 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted Friday at 18:04 Report Share Posted Friday at 18:04 if it was free Racheal Reeves would tax it..... thats your answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted Friday at 18:09 Report Share Posted Friday at 18:09 12 minutes ago, Dave-G said: I keep seeing so called free energy generators in my FB feeds - some reciprocating spring driven and some motor driven from the energy produced by an alternator. My mind tells me its horse twaddle - but could it be factual and its been kept from us? Buy one and let the rest of us know how good it is............................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted Friday at 18:17 Author Report Share Posted Friday at 18:17 7 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Buy one and let the rest of us know how good it is............................... 😁yer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted Friday at 21:56 Report Share Posted Friday at 21:56 3 hours ago, Dave-G said: I keep seeing so called free energy generators in my FB feeds - some reciprocating spring driven and some motor driven from the energy produced by an alternator. My mind tells me its horse twaddle - but could it be factual and its been kept from us? Err, no. Yes it’s garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted Friday at 22:32 Report Share Posted Friday at 22:32 34 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Err, no. Yes it’s garbage. how do you know ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted Friday at 23:30 Report Share Posted Friday at 23:30 33 minutes ago, ditchman said: how do you know ? I suspect you are pulling my leg, but because I understand physics. There are currently two known ways to generate more output power than input power: 1. nuclear fission where it’s long established that this can be sustained over an extended period of time (many years) 2. nuclear fusion where this can currently only be sustained over relatively short periods of time (a few minutes) Never is a long time but it’s a pretty safe bet that free energy will NEVER be achieved by pure electromechanical mechanisms observable by the naked eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted Saturday at 21:11 Report Share Posted Saturday at 21:11 21 hours ago, Raja Clavata said: 2. nuclear fusion where this can currently only be sustained over relatively short periods of time (a few minutes) They will never get fusion to work on Earth, they are trying to substitute heat for pressure. The fusion that takes place in the sun, occurs in semi metallic hydrogen isotopes, (hydrogen in it's ultra dense metallic form, rather than liquid or gaseous form) at about 100,000 to 150,000 kelvin. On earth they are heating hydrogen isotopes to 1.5million kelvin as a gaseous plasma at low pressure. At present they can supposedly sustain fusion (or more accurately the hot plasma) for up to 1066 seconds (Chinese East Tokamak) but only by inputting a lot more energy than they get out or alternativelyou can get more energy out than put in by putting the hydrogen in the centre of a fission bomb, using the fission explosion to recreate the pressures and density of the sun but that only lasts for micro seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted Saturday at 21:13 Report Share Posted Saturday at 21:13 so why are they putting £ 1000's of millions into these projects...?...is there something you/we dont know ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted Saturday at 22:09 Report Share Posted Saturday at 22:09 55 minutes ago, ditchman said: so why are they putting £ 1000's of millions into these projects...?...is there something you/we dont know ? Because its not there money if it dont work they can just write it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted Saturday at 22:46 Report Share Posted Saturday at 22:46 im not convinsed............i dont think we are being told the whole story.......if Pigeonwatch knows its a load of tosh and they are right...it would bring multi billion $dollar projects down all over the world..... im a glass half full sort of person...and some would say easily lead................my uncle sandy (lon since dead) worked on secrete project for Ever- ready............he died of cancer...it later came out that he was working on a sealed re-chargeble battery.....most people at ever-ready thought he was loopy..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted Sunday at 09:34 Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:34 Like I said previously, never is a long time, but of course pressure is one of the big challenges in fusion. These programmes exist since, regardless of primary objectives outcome, you learn a load of other stuff along the way. There are various technological races ongoing including AGI, quantum, fusion, jet propulsion, nanotech etc. along with long-standing research into things like cancers. Of course the disclosure of progress is managed but that’s nearly always for competitive advantage rather than a conspiracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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