AdamC Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Hi all, I am a new member. I posted in the Welcome section last week, but if you did not see my post, I am getting back into shooting after probably 10 years out. I use to shoot in my teens with my dad, but have a problem. My left eye was always stronger than my right, but I am right handed. This means that when shooting, if left both eyes open I am consistently a given distance out depending on the way the bird is crossing. When someone noticed this, and covered my left eye, I started smashing clays. I actually ended up going to the docs about this as I would keep getting really bad headaches right above my eyes, and they put it down to the imbalance of eye strength. So much was the difference, I could not point both eyes at the end of my nose, the right would just do its own thing whilst the lef looked in and down. I was also barely able to close my left eye and leave the right open. Anyway the doc gave me some eye excercises to do and this greatly improved things, but I did have to wear an eye patch when shooting (no pirate jokes please). As I have not shot a gun for some considerable time, I have started worrying about this. I do not want to start wearing an eye path again and shooting left handed feels far too awkward. I can now close my left eye and thus use my right, but have read this is not ideal and both eyes should be left open, although not sure why. Anyway, I have tried looking down my right arm and pointing it at target, but the moment I close my left eye, it is clear that it was that eye doing the aiming as my finger is way off the mark. Really after anyones experience or suggestions with this. Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Fit a uni dot sight to your gun, problem solved. I have written loads about eye dominance over the years. If you do a search on PW you will find loads. www.uni-dot.com webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Very interesting that Webber, always had the same problem myself but just shoot with my left eye shut. Are they battery powered then, or do they use the surrounding light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Oly No, not battery powered at all. They are fibre optic, similar to the easy hit, but more established and around half of the price. Closing your left eye will work but you loose you binocular vision and therefore perception of depth ie distance. The unidot transformed my shooting. Following the death of my mother I discovered that my eye dominance had changed, I am now right eye dominant, but have left the sights on my guns as I do a little coaching and find it useful for learners who are left eye dominant, but right handed. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Excellent! Which do you recommend for 85% rough shooting and 15% clays? I know the website says the 4mm (and it's presently on half price offer) but would the 2mm not be more accurate? I'm not keen on the idea of sticking this thing to my ribs either, is the Riblock secure enough on it's own, and will it damage my ribs at all? (Likely to go on my semi & O/U) Also can we (in the UK) buy from this website (USA) without too much hassle? Cheers mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Oly Get the 4mm rib lock. It will come with a small strip of double sided sticky tape, use it if you need to. The glue is easily removed with WD40 when needs be. All of mine are red, but if green floats your boat? webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Grand job, thanks for all the info mate Didn't want to end up sticking some locktite impregnanted sticky tape to my ribs!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 If you want, take a look at the Easyhit bead as well. It has a 3M self adheshive pad and I use one because I surrer from the same problem. Pirate is a re-saler for Easyhit and his internet comes back on line today, send him a pm and he can give you some advice too. I havent heard about the Unidot so I cant say if it is good or not. I will check it out though as I like to be able to recomend more than one resolution for a problem and it could be as good or better, cheaper is good of course as well. I paid £30 for the really long Easyhit and it was well worth it imo. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I've got an easy hit one, works pretty well, though oddly enough I find pulling my cap down a bit over my right eye a touch works even more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Looks like the same thing - but without the riblock...and with a more expensive price tag (although I havent checked shipping on the Unidot from the US). Funnily enough though on the UK site it's ~£5 cheaper to buy it in US dollars ($50 instead of £30)! Do we know if Priate can get them any cheaper? Any better price for two (BOGOF!?!)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 They look like they both do the same job in the same way, the Unidot is cheaper though. If you find an Easyhit supplier near you they will have a magnetic version you could try, but put a bit of electricians tape around it to keep it secure as recoil throws them around a bit. Not sure if there are any Unidot suppliers over here as I only read thier US site. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I've got an easy hit one, works pretty well, though oddly enough I find pulling my cap down a bit over my right eye a touch works even more we have done this one many many times and you will often see in my posts i refer to my same problem, like many I have the easy hit bead on all my guns and they really do help, I had some cracking birds on FB 111's beaters day sat inc a long left and right 180 degs opposed (just for you MC ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 180 degrees apart? you said 180 YARDS apart on saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamC Posted December 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Thanks all, had no idea this was such a common problem.... guess I should have done Search first, but still caught up in the excitement of a new forum I can participate in!! I am going to see a friend that runs a shooting school on Wednesday as he thinks he has some guns that will fit me and my budget. Guessing as he coaches, he will also have and easy hit or similar device to enable me to try it out. If all works I will get one ordered. Thanks all for swift interesting responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 180 degrees apart? you said 180 YARDS apart on saturday MC it was well 200 yards but I cut it back cause i knew you would scoff at the very thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Hi all, I am a new member. I posted in the Welcome section last week, but if you did not see my post, I am getting back into shooting after probably 10 years out. I use to shoot in my teens with my dad, but have a problem. My left eye was always stronger than my right, but I am right handed. This means that when shooting, if left both eyes open I am consistently a given distance out depending on the way the bird is crossing. When someone noticed this, and covered my left eye, I started smashing clays. I actually ended up going to the docs about this as I would keep getting really bad headaches right above my eyes, and they put it down to the imbalance of eye strength. So much was the difference, I could not point both eyes at the end of my nose, the right would just do its own thing whilst the lef looked in and down. I was also barely able to close my left eye and leave the right open. Anyway the doc gave me some eye excercises to do and this greatly improved things, but I did have to wear an eye patch when shooting (no pirate jokes please). As I have not shot a gun for some considerable time, I have started worrying about this. I do not want to start wearing an eye path again and shooting left handed feels far too awkward. I can now close my left eye and thus use my right, but have read this is not ideal and both eyes should be left open, although not sure why. Anyway, I have tried looking down my right arm and pointing it at target, but the moment I close my left eye, it is clear that it was that eye doing the aiming as my finger is way off the mark. Really after anyones experience or suggestions with this. Thanks all. Well bud, dont panic, I have gone though all this over the last 14 years, I have tried sticking tape, and black over the left lens of my shooting glasses , tried closing my left eye just before pulling the trigger,all to no real effect, Nowadays I just raise my left thumb on the forend when tracking clays and I find that by shutting off my view of the barrel when doing this then I shoot OK.It could be that your gun is much too low in the combe if you are aware that you can see too much of the left side of your top rib,Think about what I have said, try what I have suggested, and see if your scores have improved, Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmsy Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 learn to shoot friom the other shoulder, its easier than trying to swap your master eye over !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayward Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I have the same issue i say issue as i Now do not find it to be a problem What i do is mount my gun with the left eye closed looking down the barrel and getting the right eye in line true with the gun looking down the bead and to the pip and the i open it , i was shown this by an advanced instructor , Then generally i take little notice of the pip by this i mean i see it !! as its in my line of sight and i know it there but i don't actually use it like a sight ie line it dead on the clay or quary what i do is Trust !!! that my gun is pointing where im looking this is the hard part although most important trust !! i always line up with my left dominant eye closed .... its quite difficult to explain my main point is try not to sight the target with the end pip like a rifle ... look past it see the target and TRUST ! I did try easy hit but it fell of before i really noticed a great improvement .. Its something that can play tricks on you & You may blame it for you missed targets your learning hence you need to learn where your shot goes and where you actually need to shoot in order to hit the target , there is many variables once you start to learn where your shot is going and where it needs to be you should get on your mount is important get it checked by the most experienced people you can find and ask them to have a look @ you !! Many new shooters think its like a rifle and once you see the target you shoot this is more often not the case i accept there is targets where it is obviously.. but in Sporting ,DTL, ball trap and Skeet i hardly ever shoot @ the target directly and i can hit emm ok .. Where are you on working your lead out are you sure this isn't actually the problem .... take little notice of this its said in jest !!!!! as a joke your learning right ? So you obviously missing a few try shooting in different places ahead a bit ! a bit more !A bit more, under ,it etc etc on the same target and work out where you need to be looking/shooting in order to hit it ! once you have worked this out and can hit that target consistently move on even if your looking in the wrong place due to eye dominance you will have learned where you need to shoot in order to hit this type of target so its not an issue lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john faul Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 if i was you i would shoot from my other shoulder it will take time to get used to it but it should sort out your problem for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickshot Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 You can get the stock of your gun cast by a gunsmith. This move your dominant eye over to where it wants to be and lets youstay right handed without having to close an eye or have a Uni-dot/Easy-Hit, Which is proven can distract some shooters from the target and so result in a miss. It only helps if you can block it out. QS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Scroll down on the 2nd page and click on the 'EYE DOMINANCE' thread by my son, 'Breadster50'. He has the same problem, but shot a 98 in the British Open Skeet at Bisley and a 99 in the English. All is not lost. The blokes on here give good advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I did try easy hit but it fell of before i really noticed a great improvement .. Did you have the self adhesive one, if the rib was cleaned properly it should be on there for years. I shoot my guns every week min 110 rounds per week and it has never moved. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamC Posted December 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Once again, thanks all for the various feedback. I think something like the EasyHit is going to be the thing for me. Can I just ask what size diameter is generally recomended? The oder page defaults to 3mm, but I wonder if I might be better with the more discrete 2.5mm. Or is this just a personal preference thing? Thanks, Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 With the Easy Hit the length of the bead varies. I dont think the diameter of the bead differs. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamC Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 With the Easy Hit the length of the bead varies. I dont think the diameter of the bead differs. They seem to do a 3mm and 2.5mm versions on top of the 3 different lengths. Thanks, Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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