henry d Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 I have an old Mod 2 BRNO and the stock is very tatty so I was thinking of removing the stock and cleaning it and oiling it, then I had a rush of blood to the head and thought, why isnt the barrel floating So what do you think, waste of time as the barrel harmonics will be negligible or give it a whirl what have you got to lose ?? Many thanks for any relevant replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 I have a 22lr Silhouette and it is not floated, shoots spot on. A waste of time on a 22 Rimmy IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 If it shoots good as it is, then why bother? If it doesn't, then like you say HD you've nothing to loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Its easy enough to do, so why not. I noticed a difference myself when i did mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 A waste of time on a 22 Rimmy IMHO. Anschutz - world class leaders in rimfire rifles - all their competition guns are fully floated for a reason!! However, if the gun can outshoot you then there isn't a problem. I would only bother with it (if I were you) if you regularly outshot the rifle. That's why I shoot a fully floated Anschutz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuck1 Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 If you are happy Henry I wouldn't bother. I have to say, I think a bit much is made of the whole floating/bedding/trigger/cleaning etc etc. I know that this is going to get me chased from the site with burning spears, but I am of the longstanding opinion that if you shoot reasonably well, know your ammo, scope and limits, and practice plenty, a lot of these things are a little excessive. However, I don't punch paper targets, spend thousands on well anything really, and I look like a tramp so maybe I need to have a re think. I have thought about doing mine, but only really beacause I have read about it on sites like this. and it probably won't make that much difference. Maybe one winter's night I'll get around to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 HD, over 15yrs ago I bought the excate same rifle. Made in 1971, it shot OK, but not enought to my liking. So I decided to fully bed the whole barrel, & have never looked back since. What have you to lose, may aswell do the trigger, & blue the barrel while your at it, BJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sick Old Man Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 Henry If I were you I would ensure your barrel is fully floating, its easy to do and does make a huge difference. I have a Ruger 10/22 that would not hold its zero at all, drove me up the wall. To cut a very long story short I was recommended to float the barrel, I did this with coarse abrasive paper and a bit of 15mm copper pipe to wrap the paper around. The rifle has been faultless ever since, my BRNO 4 is floated from the factory and so is my .17HMR. Its a quick and easy job and you will not regret it mate, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted December 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 What have you to lose, may aswell do the trigger, & blue the barrel while your at it, BJ. Blue the barrel !! ..........I thought it was meant to be silver, that`s why I covered it with cammo tape Many thanks for the replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy22 Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 I thought the Mod 2 has the front bedding screw halfway along the forend, located into the rearsight collar. That being the case, I wonder if the reason why the barrel isn't floated, whether it should be and exactly how you would do it is as simple as it might otherwise seem to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 There is a school of thought buzzing around the smallbore target shooting scene at the moment about not having a floating barrel. People are packing theirs with cardboard and are finding either no difference or very small changes to groups. My Anschutz target rifle has a fully floating barrel and it certainly can outshoot me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 Barrel Harmonics are the smallest barrel concearning Barrel floating. If your gun has a wooden stock, get it clear from the barrel. Its not the harmonics that causes a problem. Ever barrel has harmonics when the shot is fired, and providing the harmonics are the same each and every shot, you are fine. But should the pressure on the barrel change, the barrel will possibly move off zero, or the harmonics will be changed. Anything from temprature, humidity, or good old rain, will cause the wood in your stock to expand, shrink, or warp, taking the barrel with it. It does not matter if there is a point touching the barrel, or even the whole stock. But it must not move. Most stocks, even plastic, will change shape. Even using a simple bipod could put pressure on the barrel when you rest the gun for prone shooting, and not when standing. IMO its worth it. I took a perfectly good Tikka T3 that shot striaght, stripped the stock of and free floated it, and it shot better. Nothing to loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 Don't think there is too much going on in the harmonics dept with a 22lr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 I thought the Mod 2 has the front bedding screw halfway along the forend, located into the rearsight collar. That being the case, I wonder if the reason why the barrel isn't floated, whether it should be and exactly how you would do it is as simple as might it otherwise seem to be. Hence the full bedding Sandy, that's the way the rifle was designed, thanks for the imput, HD.........I would take that tape OFF,( if ya put it on ) it's US to start with, also cause you more problems in the future.<img> BJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Don't think there is too much going on in the harmonics dept with a 22lr You'd be wrong then! Martin - I know what your saying - full contact action bedding but with a pressure bearing pad for the barrel - it has been done for years, seems to go in and out of fashion though and seems to vary from rifle to rifle. However, like you suggest, floating any rifle barrel makes a difference whereas pressure pads on seem to work for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakker01 Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I M O . all floater work best, dont matter what the cal !! & its how its held too ! why float anything if ya gonna grip the barrel !! i.e rapid 7 ?? airrifle ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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