crisis500 Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 After given her a bit of a clean heres the latest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Well as far as i can see its not a sidelock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasbeaton Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Well as far as i can see its not a sidelock boxlock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Well as far as i can see its not a sidelock boxlock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisis500 Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Well as far as i can see its not a sidelock boxlock does this make it a side lock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I asked crisis500 to post the pics, as we had to a bit of ferreting around to sort out the choke sizes and I wanted to see the gun. It is indeed a boxlock, but no less of a gun for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Von Tirpitz Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Surely Side lock has a lock that comes out the side and a box lock is an internal system? Its a lovely looking gun however, a real character with history! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Well as far as i can see its not a sidelock boxlock does this make it a side lock? Nope! ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 whats the diffrence between them them? cheers Lew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 whats the diffrence between them them? cheers Lew Recently been covered in another topic, best off doing a search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Ch Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 whats the diffrence between them them? cheers Lew Big difference, both in- and outside. Here's a Charles Boswell (London) sidelock and a Husqvarna (Sweden) boxlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Ch Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 (edited) whats the diffrence between them them? cheers Lew Where did my attachments go? I'll try again. Top a London sidelock by Charles Boswell, bottom a Swedish boxlock by Husqvarna. Edited January 30, 2008 by Sten Ch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnybasher07 Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 my dad has a 12 guage identical to that very first pic how are they expensive ..? GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polski Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x261/po...nt=HPIM0081.jpg This is a picture of my Armas Bisonte sidelock. Rick. Edited January 30, 2008 by polski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 whats the diffrence between them them? cheers Lew Where did my attachments go? I'll try again. Top a London sidelock by Charles Boswell, bottom a Swedish boxlock by Husqvarna. That Husqvarna is a really fine looking gun. How does it handle? Cheers Blackpowdwer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Ch Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 That Husqvarna is a really fine looking gun. How does it handle? Cheers Blackpowdwer It handles beautifully! A little bit heavier barrells than a first grade London gun, but very "English" and superb craftsmanship. It's a model 310 de Luxe, made in 1913. Unfortunately Husqvarna no longer makes any guns, they were really top quality at least into the 1960's. Lots of manual work in them and skilled engravers - as you can see. Unfortunately it is not my gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_est Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x261/po...nt=HPIM0081.jpg This is a picture of my Armas Bisonte sidelock. Rick. Rick, Is that a straight stock as well, also can you tell me what makers markings it has on it ?. The reason I ask is it looks verry much like my sxs sidelock ejector, and mine only has the markings ARM as the manufacturer. Also what age is the gun as mine is only 20 (ish) years old. Cheers Trev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polski Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Yes, it's fitted with a straight hand stock. It is stamped Armas "Bisonte" Eibar on the top of one barrel, Made in Spain on the other. I can't make head nor tail of the proof marks so I can't tell you how old it is. Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisis500 Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Yes, it's fitted with a straight hand stock. It is stamped Armas "Bisonte" Eibar on the top of one barrel, Made in Spain on the other. I can't make head nor tail of the proof marks so I can't tell you how old it is. Rick. Rick, This may help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polski Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Been doing a bit of research on the proof marks, think this is about right, 1520 gmos-barrel weight=1520 grams 900 k/p/cm2-pressure=883 bar=12800 psi C2- year=1983 12-70 =12 bore, 70ml chambers The gun was proofed in Eibar,I cannot find any information on Armas Bisonte. The only other mark is FA, if this is the makers mark then it belongs to a bloke called Eusebio Arizaga who used to make good quality guns but little is known of him after 1981. My gun is ok but certainly not best quality. I wonder if he later went into business producing lower quality guns, who knows?. Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisis500 Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Been doing a bit of research on the proof marks, think this is about right, 1520 gmos-barrel weight=1520 grams 900 k/p/cm2-pressure=883 bar=12800 psi C2- year=1983 12-70 =12 bore, 70ml chambers The gun was proofed in Eibar,I cannot find any information on Armas Bisonte. The only other mark is FA, if this is the makers mark then it belongs to a bloke called Eusebio Arizaga who used to make good quality guns but little is known of him after 1981. My gun is ok but certainly not best quality. I wonder if he later went into business producing lower quality guns, who knows?. Rick. Rick, It seems your in the same boat as me i have worked out most of the marks on the barrel apart from a ZH stamp which is inside a shield type stamp. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polski Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 ZABALA HERMANOS Is this the one you mean? Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisis500 Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 ZABALA HERMANOS Is this the one you mean? Rick. the first one is it? thanks for clearing that up. i have now found out the following: Zabala Hermanos S.A. is a family enterprise based in Eibar, in northern Spain's Basque country to the east of the major city of Bilbao. The company started making shotguns in 1932, and say since then they have produced nearly a million guns. More side-by-sides than over-unders still feature in their current catalogue. Eibar is Spain's main gun-making town, and firearms of various kinds have been built there since the 1500s. Because of all this activity, Eibar is the home of the Spanish proof house, the standards of which meet those of the CIP (the international organisation of proof houses) and are therefore acceptable in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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