WeihrauchPower Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Some idiot over on the SniperCentral Forum claims to have shot a Badger from .302 yds. "this is with a skull of a Badger i took at 302 yards(my farthest shot with this little guy)...i know that isnt far but for a .22 it took seriously a good 4-5 secs to hit work done was glass bed and trigger, thats it". He doesn't say whether it's a .22lr or Magnum. Out of interest what sort of hold over would you expect at have at 302yds, i'd love to send him a graph! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 this is one i happen to have kicking around, dosent show the hold over, but gives the picture. mental image of a rimfire with 3 20MOA rails stacked ontop of one another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopy bunny blaster Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 bloody hell, that would be some hold over *guesses* about 35 inches? im sure someone with a little more knowledge will corrrect me though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeihrauchPower Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Thanks Dunganick, I shall post that and see what he has to say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) according to my federal ballistics program using there 31grain hyper velocity 22lr rounds there bullet at 300 yards would be 773 ft per sec 41ftlbs in 10mph cross winds you would need 52.8inch drift allowance 104 inch drop at 300yards with gun zero at 100 yards this is all with a 24inch barrel and amuzzle velocity of 1430ftps hope this helps Edited February 7, 2008 by SPARKIE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) @ 300yrds, my point blank load lists these stats: 1085FPS @ muzzle (using a 40grain with eley data i seem to recall) total drop from muzzle 175.74 (so about 2" less than that hold over) 58FPE (what ever that is) energy (105fpe at muzzle, so im guessing its not ftlb) 769fps ETA, 1.009 sec 31.58 wind deflection in a 10mph wind. in comparison, a .223 using vmax 50grain @ 3300fps (muzzle) 10.45inch drop from muzzle (so about 9inches hold over) 540fpe 2206fps ETA 0.334 secs 10.82 inch deflection in a 10mph wind Note the above data is a 40grain eley plus subsonic .22lr zero'd at 70yards. Edited February 7, 2008 by dunganick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Even if you could make that shot, imagine the grouping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I was chuffed to hit a grain sack at 300 yards with my rimfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) IF he could hold 1moa (which he wont be able to) thats a little under 3 inches i believe. a foxes kill zone with that energy is about that or slightly less. Given that my .22lr shoots about 1.5" at 100 yards (on a very very good day), im roughly looking at about 7 or 8 inches without any wind and assuming no extra error with velocities etc creaps in (which it will) tbh i think your looking about a 1.5ft grouping. maybe worse, im not sure, ive never bothered to try past 150 yards. Edited February 7, 2008 by dunganick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Some idiot over on the SniperCentral Forum claims to have shot a Badger from .302 yds. "this is with a skull of a Badger i took at 302 yards(my farthest shot with this little guy)...i know that isnt far but for a .22 it took seriously a good 4-5 secs to hit work done was glass bed and trigger, thats it". He doesn't say whether it's a .22lr or Magnum. Out of interest what sort of hold over would you expect at have at 302yds, i'd love to send him a graph! Did he say ".302" or "302" yards??? While .302 yds would be an achievable (though slightly unsporting) 10.872 inches, 302 yards proper, would mean he's probably a ****, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbruno Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 i dont know about 22 mag but with a 17hmr i have taken ground squirells at well over 200 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Well we all know it's a load of ****, and badgers are pretty damn hardy to take down, (not my experience but some farmers). Gibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windknot Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 It's quite possible that he connected with one at that range. But what he's prolly not telling you is how many he's missed or wounded at that distance. Just because you can hit animals at silly distances doesn't mean you should. I used to shoot rifles at 600 yards for the hell of it, managed some decent groups too- but I'd never take a shot at an animal at that range- just too many variables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakker01 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 quite possibly a lucky shot, dont know about the intension! as i have aimed & done bunny's at 180 & 220 yds with a rimmy down hill......2 outa about 15 shots tho ! & that suprised me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Mmmm………bovine excrement comes to mind G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tjdwillis Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 (edited) in theory its possible, in practice its a joke...i hope it is a joke! in terms of hold over...aim at the moon and hope for the best! NO CHANCE! Edited February 8, 2008 by tjdwillis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Hi all, Just to throw something else into the mix, is it not possible if the 'sniper' in question does not mention the type of .22 he was using that he/she may be using a .22 centrefire cartridge (.222, .223, .22 hornet. 22 - 250 etc etc), I may of course be totally wrong but its may be worth thinking about as it would make the **** a lot more achievable and humane. To be honest I am surprised at one of the replies to this thread stating they have shot .22 rimmies at 180 - 220 yards and only hit with a small amount. This surely cannot be a humane way of shooting. We should be shooting within the gun, ammo and our own capabilities. If not animals will be injured frequently and these shooters cannot claim to be sportsmen/women. So may be trakker 01 should think a little harder about how he shoots those long range bunnies and also what he posts on these forums which we all know antis will use to aid their cause. Shooting from that range and only connecting 2 out of 15 claiming luck is not acceptable. I am happy to discuss this further privately if moderators prefer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 the edited word should of read shot (not what I obviously mis typed) sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeihrauchPower Posted February 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 (edited) Steve B, There is a picture of his gun in his post which is definitely a rimfire. He has gone rather quiet after charts appeared! Edit: Hopefully this means he won't make a shot that is sooo stupid again or realised he can't fool people with lies. Edited February 9, 2008 by WeihrauchPower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 clearly the guy is talking out of his you know what then. Thanks for that. Steve b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 IF he could hold 1moa (which he wont be able to) thats a little under 3 inches i believe. a foxes kill zone with that energy is about that or slightly less. Given that my .22lr shoots about 1.5" at 100 yards (on a very very good day), im roughly looking at about 7 or 8 inches without any wind and assuming no extra error with velocities etc creaps in (which it will) tbh i think your looking about a 1.5ft grouping. maybe worse, im not sure, ive never bothered to try past 150 yards. Fancy a day at the farm, and see how far we can push a rimfire sometime? Some interesting posts you made there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 sounds good to me, i will let you know when im free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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