The truth from the horses mouth

[Graham M]

Removed due to not wanting to start a crying match

G.M.

Edited March 1, 2008 by Graham M

[dazza]

somebody posted it on here a while ago

[JohnGalway]

I found that interesting, not often do I have that reaction to religious topics on the internet (read between the lines ) I would have liked to hear a little more from the other side in it also to have it balanced.

[lock&load]

wow ,how long befor she gets a car bomb,i only hope people will listento her.

[magdie]

wow ,how long befor she gets a car bomb,i only hope people will listento her.

Boy as she got guts

[col s10]

couldnt put it better myself.she aint gonna last long

[bob300w]

Interesting, but would you have the same view on this if it had been an English or American woman, speaking in English and saying the same? Would you not have just written it off as propaganda? Is that not simply what it is, an anti-muslim rant? Apart from offending Muslims, and I would have thought that they are ****** off enough already. I really cannot see what the point of this is. No way was this televised in an arab country, if it was televised at all. Remember Salman Rushdie?

[col s10]

Interesting, but would you have the same view on this if it had been an English or American woman, speaking in English and saying the same? Would you not have just written it off as propaganda? Is that not simply what it is, an anti-muslim rant? Apart from offending Muslims, and I would have thought that they are ****** off enough already. I really cannot see what the point of this is. No way was this televised in an arab country, if it was televised at all. Remember Salman Rushdie?

what about him

[bob300w]

Interesting, but would you have the same view on this if it had been an English or American woman, speaking in English and saying the same? Would you not have just written it off as propaganda? Is that not simply what it is, an anti-muslim rant? Apart from offending Muslims, and I would have thought that they are ****** off enough already. I really cannot see what the point of this is. No way was this televised in an arab country, if it was televised at all. Remember Salman Rushdie?

what about him

He had a price put on his head by a muslim cult leader for comments he made in his book, the Satanic Verses, do you really think that if this was a genuine piece of television this woman would be alive? This footage is over a year old, it was proved on American TV that the woman is an actress and the whole purpose of the youtube film was to stir up racial hatred. Posting this on here again does not help either.

[Graham M]

Mmmm, don’t know why but I seem to have pi$$ed you off for some reason.

Moaning about one of my other postings and now this one.

Perhaps I should keep away and let you keep us all informed with your all-knowing wisdom.

Jeeze, why does this happen on every forum lately; someone is always putting the boot in or stirring the pot. Makes you want to spit.

G.M.

[col s10]

play nicely guys.i see his point,but lets not think this is personal thing.

[Dead-Eyed Duck]

Makes you think watching this.

 

Even if it was a wind up, a lot of the content would make a lot of sense to a lot of people.

 

Damn the muslim extremists for their narrow minded view of the world, and damn Georg Bush for his.

 

Was it that 'warmonger' Winston Churchill who said "Better to jaw-jaw than to war-war"

 

Don

[Graham M]

The woman is Wafa Sultan, an Arab-American

psychologist from Los Angeles .

[fullbore]

Interesting, but would you have the same view on this if it had been an English or American woman, speaking in English and saying the same? Would you not have just written it off as propaganda? Is that not simply what it is, an anti-muslim rant? Apart from offending Muslims, and I would have thought that they are ****** off enough already. I really cannot see what the point of this is. No way was this televised in an arab country, if it was televised at all. Remember Salman Rushdie?

what about him

He had a price put on his head by a muslim cult leader for comments he made in his book, the Satanic Verses, do you really think that if this was a genuine piece of television this woman would be alive? This footage is over a year old, it was proved on American TV that the woman is an actress and the whole purpose of the youtube film was to stir up racial hatred. Posting this on here again does not help either.

 

neither does flying planes into buildings and suicide bombing. Like she said the Jews won respet without resorting to those types of action, And correct me if Im wrong but I dont think they are a christian tactic either

[fullbore]

Interesting, but would you have the same view on this if it had been an English or American woman, speaking in English and saying the same? Would you not have just written it off as propaganda? Is that not simply what it is, an anti-muslim rant? Apart from offending Muslims, and I would have thought that they are ****** off enough already. I really cannot see what the point of this is. No way was this televised in an arab country, if it was televised at all. Remember Salman Rushdie?

 

 

why not? we have a saying in Yorkshire " if the truth hurts"

[Mungler]

I have missed the link and all the excitement.

 

I have however decided to convert to Islam. I like the idea of not shaving (an extra 10 mins in bed in the morning), roomy clothes for the larger person (like a moo moo but with credability), the wife's in for a shock and will have to pass back "the trousers", anyone pi55es me off and it's fatwah time, plenty of breaks at work to face East and get my head down, a license to eat Curry and pretend not to understand English.

 

Just don't tell the local CofE church that my missus attends to get our kids into the best local school and the whole no bacon sarnies could be a problem.

[shotgun harry]

I have missed the link and all the excitement.

 

I have however decided to convert to Islam. I like the idea of not shaving (an extra 10 mins in bed in the morning), roomy clothes for the larger person (like a moo moo but with credability), the wife's in for a shock and will have to pass back "the trousers", anyone pi55es me off and it's fatwah time, plenty of breaks at work to face East and get my head down, a license to eat Curry and pretend not to understand English.

 

Just don't tell the local CofE church that my missus attends to get our kids into the best local school and the whole no bacon sarnies could be a problem.

Not to mention free holidays but they arent good at landing the plane on runways they seem to prefer buildings!

[Mungler]

Don't knock it. You seen the queues getting into JFK?

[lurcherboy]

ZIONIST "ISRAELI" ACTS OF TERRORISM 1939 -1974

 

"Woe to him that builds a town with blood and establishes a city by iniquity!" Habakkuk, 2:12

 

 

Terrorist Gangs

Soon after the end of World War II, there were three basic para-military Zionist organizations in Palestine, working against the Arab people, with the specific purpose of driving it out of Palestine. These were the Haganah, the Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang.

 

Before the British Mandate, the Jewish settlers had formed a group of mounted armed watchmen called "Hashomar" and with the advent of the British Mandate, it became the Haganah (Defense). With a membership of 60,000 Zionist Jews, the Haganah had a field army of 16,000 trained men and a unit called the Palmach, which was a full-time force, numbering about 6000.

 

The Irgun Zvai Leumi included between 3000 and 5000 armed terrorists, and grew out of the Haganah and its Palmach branch in 1933. The Irgun was not ready to obey the Jewish Agency which sought to dilute the terror of the Haganah in order not to lose its respectability.

 

In 1939, one of Irgun's commanding officers, Abraham Stern, left the parent organization and formed the Stern Gang, numbering some 200 to 300 dangerous fanatics.

 

Zionist Terrorist Activities 1939 - 1947

1939 Haganah blew up the Iraqi oil pipeline near Haifa. Moshe Dayan was one of the participants in the act. This technique was used again in 1947 at least 4 times.

August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939 During this period, Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.

 

We received this message from Margaret UK as a wetness of 1939 - Jerusalem Post Office, we publish it as we received.

 

[ 1939 - Jerusalem Post Office

 

From a sweet British Lady To Ibrahim Ebeid

 

I wonder why you left out the bombing of the Jerusalem Post Office in 1939. My father had an office in the building although he was out at the Jerusalem automatic exchange at the time. I still have several pictures he took of the damage. My memory tells me that one of the Arab Postal staff was killed but as I was only five at the time I may have muddled that with another incident. ]

 

November 25, 1940 S.S.Patria was blown up by Jewish terrorists in Haifa harbour, killing 268 illegal Jewish immigrants.

 

February 24, 1942 S.S. Struma exploded in the Black Sea, killing 769 illegal Jewish immigrants. Described by the Jewish Agency as an act of "mass-protest and mass-suicide."

 

November 6, 1944 Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

 

July 22, 1946 Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun officially claimed responsibility for the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah and the Jewish Agency were involved.

 

October 1, 1946 The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

 

June 1947 Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

 

September 3, 1947 A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

 

December ll, 1947 Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

 

December 13,1947 Zionist terrorists, believed to be members of Irgun Zvai Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into an Arab cafe; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.

 

December 19, 1947 Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

 

December 29, 1947 Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

 

December 30,1947 A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.

 

1947 -- 1948 Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their homes and land; since then, they have been denied the right to return or been given compensation for their property. After their expulsion, the "Israeli Forces" razed to the ground 385 Arab villages and towns out of a total of 475, and obliterated their remains.

 

January 1, 1948 Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and 33wounded.

 

January 4, 1948 Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab National Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

 

January 5, 1948 The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons, among them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish Consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this crime.

 

January 7, 1948 Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.

 

January 16, 1948 Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

 

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948 Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

 

February 15, 1948 Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children..

 

March 3, 1948 Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa (a 7 story block of apartments and shops) by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Gang claimed responsibility for the incident.

 

March 22, 1948 A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

 

March 31, 1948 The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

 

April 9, 1948 A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, supported by the Palmach forces, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children.Older men and young women were captured and paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

 

April 16, 1948 Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

 

April 19, 1948 Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

 

May 3, 1948 A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

 

May11, 1948 A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

 

April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948 Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away verything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

 

B. ISRAELI TERRORIST ACTIVITIES 1948 -- 1974

 

September 17, 1948 Count Folke Bernadotte, UN Mediator in Palestine was assassinated by members of the Stern Gang in the "Israeli"- controlled sector of Jerusalem. Bernadotte's aide, Col. Serot, was also killed.

 

November 1948 The Arab villages of Iqrit and Birim were attacked and destroyed, killing and injuring countless unarmed Arabs, including women and children. All the Arabs were forcibly expelled from their homes and land.

 

February 1949 All the Arabs were forcibly expelled from their homes in the villases of Anan and Kafr Yasif by Haganah terrorists.

 

1950 Zionist agents threw bombs at a synagogue in Baghdad, Iraq, and other Jewish targets in order to pressure Jews into emigrating to Israel.

 

August 28, 1953 Armed Israelis attacked the UNRWA refugee camp at Bureij in the Gaza Strip. The "Israelis" threw grenades through the windows of the huts and gunned down the fleeing refugees, killing 30 and wounding 62 others.

 

October 14, 1953 The village of Qibiya was attacked by Israeli troops, killing 42 villagers.

 

July 1954 American and British consular and information offices in Cairo were sabotaged by Israeli agents operating under the "Israeli" Ministry of Defense.

 

April 4/5 1956 The "Israelis" shelled Gaza with 120 mm mortars, killing 56 Arab civilians and wounding 103 others.

 

January 11, 1952 -- September 25, 1956 Israelis carried out violent raids against Arab villages of Beit Jala, Falame, Rantis, Qibiya, Nahalin, Bani Suhaila, Rahwa, Gharandal, Wadi Fukin (in Palestine and Syria) and refugee camps at Bureij and Gaza in the Gaza Strip, killing 220 Arab civilians.

 

October 29, 1956 Forty-seven Arab inhabitants, including 7 children and 9 women were massacred by "Israeli" border guards in the village of Kufr Kassem. The guards arrived and announced that there would be a curfew as of 5 p.m. that very evening. Most of the men were working in the fields and did not know of the curfew. When they returned in the evening, they were summarily shot.

 

November 3, 1956 The town of Khan Yunis was occupied by "Israeli" forces. Two hundred and seventy five persons were killed.

 

November 12, 1956 One hundred and eleven civilians were killed by "Israeli" forces at Rafah refugee camp.

 

October 6, 1959 The Egypt-"Israel" Mixed Armistice Commission condemned "Israel" for expelling several hundred beduins of the Azazmah tribe from the Nagab.

 

November 13,1960 A large "Israeli" force, including tanks and armoured cars, attacked the village of Samu', destroying 125 houses, a school, a clinic; 15 houses were destroyed in another village, killing a total of 18 and wounding 54 others.

 

1959 -- 1963 "Israeli" armed forces attacked refugee camps at Rafah and villages at Nuqeib, Rafat and Shaikh Hussein in Syria and Palestine, killing 47 civilians.

 

June 12, 1967 Four hundred families were evicted from the Moroccan Quarter in Jerusalem, after three hours notice to evacuate their homes. Similar incidents took place at Qalqilya.

 

June 12, 1967 The villages of Beit Nuba, Yalu and Amwas were razed to the ground after the forced eviction of the population.

 

June/July 1967 During the June 1967 war, "Israeli" forces deliberately attacked UNEF Indian staff on 5 occasions, killing 11 and wounding 24. The UN Secretary-General reported that "Israeli" troops also mistreated UNEF officers and looted their property.

 

June/December l967 As a result of the June 1967 war, over 400,000 Palestinian Arabs living in Gaza and the West Bank and over 100,000 Palestinians and Syrians living in the Kuneitra area were up rooted from their homes and not allowed to return while the area was under "Israeli" occupation.

 

December 28, 1968 "Israeli" commando units transported by helicopter, attacked the Beirut civil airport and destroyed 13 civilian aircraft, causing damage of 22 million pounds sterling.

 

Sptember 4, 1967, September 29, 1967, July 8, 1968, Saptember 8, 1968, May 11, 1969 "Israeli" artillery shelled residential areas in Ismailia, Suez and Port Said. The Egyptian Government announced that 600 persons were killed and 1000 wounded in Ismailia since the June 1967 war.

 

February 12, 1970, "Isreali" planes bombed a factory near Abou Zaabal, Egypt, killing 70 civilian workers and injuring 98 others.

 

March 31,1970 "Israeli" planes bombed the city of Mansoura in the Nile Delta, killing 12 civilians and wounding 35 others.

 

April 8, 1970 "Israeli" planes bombed the Bahr el Baqar school in Sharkia province, 80 kilometres north of Cairo, killing 46 school children.

 

March 11, 1971 Thirty four families from the Gaza Strip were expelled to Abou Zuneima, in the Sinai Desert.

 

August 1, 1971 "Israeli" military occupation authorities in the Gaza Strip embarked on a house-demolition and terror campaign designed to force the 400,000 Palestinian refugees living in the Strip to move out.

 

April 28, 1972 An Israeli Piper plane flew over the Arab village of Akraba, spraying a chemical defoliant over the villagers' wheat crops. Previously, the Israeli Army had forcibly confiscated 100,000 dunums of arable land. In May, 1971 the villagers were asked to sell the remaining land. When they refused, their crops were thus destroyed.

 

July 8, 1972 Ghassan Kanafani, a Palestinian novelist and editor, was killed in Beirut when a bomb planted by "Israeli" agents exploded in his car. Also killed was his 16 year old niece.

 

July 18, 1972 Emile Khayyat, a Rif Bank employee in Beirut was seriously injured when a letter bomb sent by Zionist terrorist arm, the Mosad, exploded in his face.

 

July 19, 1972 In a similar incident, Dr. Anis Sayegh suffered serious injuries to his hands and eyes, in Beirut.

 

July 25, 1972 Bassam Abou Sharif, a young Palestinian writer in Beirut was seriously wounded when a book bomb exploded.

 

November 1967 -- September 1972 Over 1500 civilians were killed in "Israeli" attacks against Arab civilians in villages and refugee camps in Palestine, Jordan , Syria, Lebanon and Egypt.

 

March 1, 1972, March 9, 1972, September 8, 1972 "Israel" carried out attacks against civilian areas in Syria, such as Hamma and Maysaloun.

 

September 12, 1972 Three children died in a Lebanese hospital from wounds inflicted during the attack by "Israeli" aircraft on the Annahr Al Barid Palestinian refugee camp, bringing the total to 13 from this camp alone.

 

September 14, 1972 A Los Angeles accountant, Mohammed Shaath, was injured together with one of his children when a bomb planted by "Israeli" agents exploded in his home.

 

September 16, 1972 "Israeli" armoured forces attacked southern Lebanon, pulling out after much destruction of houses and large-scale looting.

 

September 17, 1972 An "Israeli" tank deliberately drove over a taxi in southern Lebanon, crushing its 9 passengers into pulp.

 

January 3, 1970, May 22, 1970, February 27, 1972, September 8, 1972, September 17, 1972 "Israelis" attacked Arab villages and refugee camps in southern Lebanon.

 

October 4, 1972 Librairie Palestine, Paris, was damaged by a bomb. Responsibility was claimed by the Massada Movement for Action and Defense, a student organization.

 

October 16, 1972 Wael Zuaiter, a Palestinian scholar and artist, was gunned down by the Israeli Mossad at his apartment entrance in Rome.

 

October 25, 1972 Ahmad Wafi, a Palestinian intellectual, was seriously injured in Algiers by an "Israeli" letter bomb.

 

October 25, 1972 Mustafa Awad Zaid was blinded and paralyzed in Tripoli and two Libyan passersby were injured as he opened a letter bomb.

 

October 26, 1972 Two employees of the Import-Export Bank in Beirut were seriously wounded when a letter bomb exploded.

 

October 26, 1972 An Egyptian police officer who checked three suspicious- looking letters was injured when they exploded.

 

November 29, 1972 Omar Sufan, representative of Red Crescent in Stockholm lost his fingers when a letter bomb exploded.

 

November 29, 1972 Adnan Hammad, a Palestinian student leader, was seriously injured in Germany with a letter bomb.

 

November 29, 1972 Three employees in Tunis Post Office were seriously injured while sorting mail, as a letter bomb exploded.

 

November 30, 1972 Ahmed Awadallah, a Palestinian student leader in Copenhagen lost his arm when a Mosad-despatched letter bomb exploded.

 

July 1967 -- December 1972 "Israeli" armed forces, in acts of collective punishment and reprisal, blew up or bulldozed more than 10,000 homes of Arab civilians in Gaza and the West Bank.

 

December 8, 1972 Mahmoud Hamshari, a Palestinian leader and intellectual lost a leg and subsequently died, on January 8, when an electronically-detonated bomb installed by the "Israeli" Mosad, exploded in his house in Paris. Aharon Yariv (an ex "Israeli" Minister of Information) supervised the execution of the operation, as he was charged with Israeli special operations directed at the Palestinians.

 

January 25, 1973 Hussein Abul Kheir was killed in Cyprus when a bomb exploded in his hotel room.

 

February 21, 1973 The northernmost corner of Lebanon was invaded by air and sea-borne "Israeli" forces, causing the death of 40 Arab civilians.

 

February 22, 1973 A Libyan civilian airliner was shot down by Israeli fighter aircraft over Sinai, killing 106 passengers and crew.

 

April 6, 1973 Dr. Bassel Kubaissy, an Iraqi political science professor, was gunned down and killed in a Paris street by the "Israeli" special forces.

 

(Kamal Nasser, one of Palestine's foremost poets, was gunned down and killed in his home in Beirut on April 10, 1973 by the "Israeli" special forces and terror squads. )

 

April 10, 1973 Palestinian leaders Mohammed Yusuf Najjar, Mrs. Najjar, Kamal Adwan and Kamal Nasser were all gunned down and killed in their homes in Beirut, by the "Israeli" special forces and terror squads.

 

May 2, 1973 Mrs. Nada Yashruti, a Palestinian feminist leader and mother of two, was ambushed by three "Israeli" agents with machine-guns at the entrance to her apartment and killed.

 

June 29, 1973 Mohammed Boudaiah, an Algerian poet and friend of the Palestinians, was killed when an "Israeli"-installed bomb exploded in his car in Paris.

 

July 21, 1973 Ahmed Bouchiki was gunned down by "Israeli" agents in Oslo. The "Israelis" admitted responsibility for this crime, which was followed by a court case. In the proceedings, information was revealed linking the "Israeli" murderers to the killings of Zuaiter, Hamshari, and other Palestinian leaders and intellectuals murdered in Europe.

 

April 12, 1974 " Israeli" forces attacked Lebanese villages, killing 2 civilians, destroying 31 houses and kidnapping 13 people.

 

May 13, 1974 "Israeli" planes raided Lebanon, killing 4 civilians.

 

May 16, 1974 "Israeli" planes raided and bombarded refugee camps in Lebanon, killing 50 civilians and wounding 200, in the Nabatiyeh and Ein-el-Helweh refugee camps. The Nabatiyeh camp was totally obliterated.

 

May 19, 1974 "Israeli" naval units bombarded the Rashidiyeh refugee camp, killing 8 civilians.

 

May 22, 1974 "Israeli" planes bombed refugee camps in Lebanon, wounding 2 civilians and destroying countless houses.

 

June 20, 1974 "Israeli" planes bombed refugee camps in Lebanon, killing 10 civilians and injuring hundreds.

 

July 8, 19 74 "Israeli" naval units raided Tyre and Saida, sinking 21 fishing boats.

 

August 7, 1974 "Israeli" planes bombed southern Lebanese villages.

 

August 13, 1974 "Israeli" naval boats shelled refugee camps, killing 1 civilian and wounding 6.

 

August 25, 1974 "Israeli" forces shelled villages in southern Lebanon.

 

September 24, 1974 "Israeli" forces shelled villages in southern Lebanon.

 

June 11, 1967 -- June 1974 "Israeli" forces destroyed 19,000 Palestinian homes in the West Bank and Gaza, which is equivalent to 380 villages and towns, almost the same number destroyed earlier, in the period 1948-- 1950.

 

 

 

 

LB

[Bagsy]

[markbivvy]

Remember Salman Rushdie?

did rather well out of it all, made a fortune lived a life of riley while under 24 hour guard, ended upwith a nighthood.

all for speaking his mind.

 

pity we cant have a bit of the same .

Edited March 1, 2008 by markbivvy

[digger]

Pouring oil on troubled waters but spot on post by LB. For sixty years the Isrealis have ridden rough shod over their neighbours and do so with out condemnation, after all no one can deny the holocaust.

I have been to Aushwitz and am not afraid to admit I shed a tear or three at what I saw, the collection of childrens shoes and two particular photos will stay in my mind for a very long time.

Moving to a land that was allegedly theirs according to some old book and treating the people like dirt is not atonement, it does not redress the balance and if roles were reversed would have the west up in arms. Mossad are tolerated after they have done their dirty work as the west is too damn scared to stand up to a small minority in the middle east.

Holy land my left buttock, more like a load of power hungry murderers are peed of their "holy land" was a few hundred miles wide of the oil rich lands.

Looks like the old book led them to a slum and they cant bear the fact. Also looks like the west will kiss butt and ignore their slow genocide while more innocents die, all in the name of protecting "their" chosen land.

Soap box back in the shed time.

[col s10]

the english gave plastien to the jews

[monkeyjaimz]

Pouring oil on troubled waters but spot on post by LB. For sixty years the Isrealis have ridden rough shod over their neighbours and do so with out condemnation, after all no one can deny the holocaust.

I have been to Aushwitz and am not afraid to admit I shed a tear or three at what I saw, the collection of childrens shoes and two particular photos will stay in my mind for a very long time.

Moving to a land that was allegedly theirs according to some old book and treating the people like dirt is not atonement, it does not redress the balance and if roles were reversed would have the west up in arms. Mossad are tolerated after they have done their dirty work as the west is too damn scared to stand up to a small minority in the middle east.

Holy land my left buttock, more like a load of power hungry murderers are peed of their "holy land" was a few hundred miles wide of the oil rich lands.

Looks like the old book led them to a slum and they cant bear the fact. Also looks like the west will kiss butt and ignore their slow genocide while more innocents die, all in the name of protecting "their" chosen land.

Soap box back in the shed time.

 

I missed the original link, but that was a spot on post.

[fullbore]

Fair enough I think we are all aware the Israelis are no angels but how on earth does that justifry suicide attacks around the world including america and england? If you have a problem with the israelis, take it up with them, dont bomb/ fly planes into innocent people going to work