Poacher Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Have seen a few older guns around that are only 2 1/2" chambers. I was wondering if anyone knew where to get of a good supply of shells ? Do they even still make them or is it a homeloaders jobby ? Thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Most game cartridges are 2 1/2" and some lighter (24g) clay cartridges are as well. The only thing you will struggle to get is heavy loads such as AAA's and BB's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poacher Posted March 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 I thought that most were 2 3/4" am i wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Some clear pigeons are 2 1/2" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 LMR loaded by eley are 2 /12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinbum71 Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 My wife's Gamebore supergames are 2 1/2". They shoot very nicely thru my AYA Yeoman too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poacher Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Yep your right, there are quite a few around. Just done some research and the majority of game shells are 2 1/2" i always assumed that they were 2 3/4" as thats what most mordern guns are chambered too. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinbum71 Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Yep your right, there are quite a few around. Just done some research and the majority of game shells are 2 1/2" i always assumed that they were 2 3/4" as thats what most mordern guns are chambered too. :blink: It's this new fangled Metric system! It's time they realised it just wont work! You know where you are with 6 pennies in a shilling, four crowns in a farthing and 12 hogs heads in a ream........etc,etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 For many years, (since 1983) the only TRUE 2.1/2" (65mm) was loaded and still is loaded by LYALVALE. Eley Grand Prix were loaded in 2.3/4" (70mm) cases for tens of years and classed as 'safe' for use in 2.1/2" chambers! It was not until the 1970s that Eley started using imported 67mm cases and these are NOT true 2.1/2" cases. Recent times have seen HULL using black Cheddite 65mm cases. I think most producers will resort to using 67mm cases soon - think about it! Rising cost of plastic - shorter case, shorter wad - less plastic! Lyalvale is your best bet for TRUE 2.1/2" shells. ('High Velocity' 28g and the fantastic SUPREME GAME 30/32gram - amongst others.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Yep your right, there are quite a few around. Just done some research and the majority of game shells are 2 1/2" i always assumed that they were 2 3/4" as thats what most mordern guns are chambered too. It's this new fangled Metric system! It's time they realised it just wont work! You know where you are with 6 pennies in a shilling, four crowns in a farthing and 12 hogs heads in a ream........etc,etc I'm sure that you have that wrong, it's 12 hogsheads to a quart.......or was that a dram....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 And 12 pennies in a shilling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 (edited) ...and 7000 grains to a pound (weight) Edited March 27, 2008 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Caledonian Cartridges in Inverness make the "monarch" 29g fibre load in a true 2 1/2" case. Remember, its the length of the case AFTER firing, not the crimped shell, so a 2 1/2" paper case with a rolled edge is longer unfired than a plastic crimped shell. Also, a cartridge may be rated on its actual length, or its pressure rating - so a 2 1/2 inch magnum exists. This means , although the physical cartridge measures 2 1/2" open, it must be fired from a magnum (3") chamber, as this short cartridge has modern high power powders that produce the higher pressures only 3" chambers are designed for. In essence, its not what the unfired shell measures, its what it says on the box, and that can be related to either the true open cartridge length OR the pressure rating regardless of the fired length. Clayman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Haygarths do a proper 2 1/2" load themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul61 Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 ok but I am still confused, I have a 2 1/2 inch chambered gun, I bought 2 1/2 inch cartridges with 67MM stamped on them 2 1/2 inch is 63.5MM Where has the extra 3.5 mm come from and can I use them in a 2 1/2 inch chambered gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Lots of Eley Game are 65mm and some Hull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerjohn Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 ok but I am still confused, I have a 2 1/2 inch chambered gun, I bought 2 1/2 inch cartridges with 67MM stamped on them 2 1/2 inch is 63.5MM Where has the extra 3.5 mm come from and can I use them in a 2 1/2 inch chambered gun? yes they are fine for a 2.5" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) Hello, mate. One could ask what have you been using for the past 2 years or so. All the info you've been given is good and if the truth be known, most of us aren't quite sure about where the 67mm came from either. You're delving in to the black arts here and probably the only easy way to get the info is to book an appointment for a visit to the proof house and ask some pertinent questions. Guessing here (can be fatal), but with 2.5" chambers, there's a good chance you have an older gun and in which case it may just have the maximum working pressure and/or the maximum load annotated along with the other proof marks. Cheers Edited January 21, 2011 by wymberley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 As I stated before; use Lyalvale 65mm (21/2") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 As I stated before; use Lyalvale 65mm (21/2") If you want a treat try a few Supreme Game 1oz 61/2 for the pigeon. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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