Cranfield Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 I damaged the rib and made a nasty "ding/gouge" on the barrel of my Beretta Silver Pigeon today. Shooting rooks,crows and jackdaws over drilled barley and I was set up next to an old sheep trough. Went out to pick up some dead birds, leant the empty gun against the hide pole and it slipped falling on the corner of the metal trough. Its definitely not a DIY job to straighten the rib and the "ding/gouge" is not repairable in my opinion. I am sure I read on here quite some time ago that someone bought a replacement barrel for their Beretta (not sure of the model) and that most of the barrels were interchangeable. Does anyone know if this is correct ? It would be the best option to just replace the barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Cranfield I have dented a few Beretta ribs, and managed to rectify the problem with careful work. Can you post a picture? webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 I asked about buying 28" barrels for rough shooting with my SP IV (currently 30") but the feedback was that I would be better off just buying another gun due to the expense of the barrels in isolation. That said, I wouldn't have bought another SP for rough shooting, it would have been something a bit cheaper hence more like the price of the barrels. To answer your question, as far as I know the barrels are interchangeable. Sorry to hear about the accident, really ticks you off when things like that happen. WGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 get advice before you purchase spair barrels, not all barrels work, you may get a good fitting pair in your opinion, but the mechanics are doing damage to your ejectors before you know it, a lot of people unfourtunatly beleive you can interchange them at will, this is not the case, the gunmakers fit matched barrel sets and proof out fit, only when you get into the top grade/models will you be able to purchase a second set to that gun, proceed with caution is my offering cranfield, get expert advice before you buy. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 get advice before you purchase spair barrels, not all barrels work, you may get a good fitting pair in your opinion, but the mechanics are doing damage to your ejectors before you know it, a lot of people unfourtunatly beleive you can interchange them at will, this is not the case, the gunmakers fit matched barrel sets and proof out fit, only when you get into the top grade/models will you be able to purchase a second set to that gun, proceed with caution is my offering cranfield, get expert advice before you buy. Martin Sounds like I got duff advice about the ability to interchange barrels. WGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 not duff buddy ill advised i would say, i have 4 brownigs that i interchange regular, listen to others its imposible, its not, the main thing is knowing what is happening inside, just because the blocks drop in a set the ejectors dont think it stops there, the timing of pins and sears are working against each other incurring wear in the wrong places, before long your gun will be in for a service,,,,,of the funeral kind. like i said it took me a while to find the ones i have that work, many others dont. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted April 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Here are some pictures of the damage. The first picture shows the gouge on the bent rib as well as the barrel. The third picture also shows the barrel gouge well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Cranfield I didnt realise that you had also damaged the barrel! Dent raising is a specialists job, I would be looking toward Birmingham, they will also be able to sort the rib. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 not good thought the rib is a fairly easy mend the barrels is not, does the dent protrude into the bore i beleive the silver pigeon also has hard chromed barrels, one blessing i hope, can you see any dent or deformity, if so off she goes, you will need a specialist to fix it, sorry to see the damage Cranfield, had a friends gun fall on mine once before, the friendship was tested with his very nonchalant attitude about it. good luck in the repair. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Have you no insurance? My guns are on my household policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted April 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 I have spoken to Chris O the master Gunsmith this morning and I am taking the gun to him on Thursday. He believes he can fix it from my description and doubts it has affected the bore of the gun, but obviously needs to see it. There is no visible blemish within the barrel and the mark outside looks just like a few turns of a drill bit (small crater), rather than a dent. He confirmed that replacements barrels would be about £700-750 plus the cost of the stock and ejector adjustments that would be necessary. He said that many guns are damaged by people thinking that replacement barrels are 100% identical, which they aren't. If I can get the rib repaired and the crater cosmetically improved, I will not bother my Insurance , as it would probably be below the excess. If the gun is a "write off" without new barrels, then I will make the claim. Thanks for the helpful comments and advice. We should all be a bit more careful with our guns when out hide shooting and I speak as the guilty one, who is now literally paying the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Had some dealings with Chris O a few years ago. Top bloke, who knows his stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Yeah chris is a top bloke if it is the same one CN Shoot at folkestone, advertises a lot of guns on guntrader. Steve b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Sorry to hear that Cranfield but on the plus side do you think it will give me the edge at Greenfields LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted April 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 LB, the day The Pope carries your cartridge bag, will be the day you have the edge over me. :crazy: Although I may be shooting a semi the next time we meet. We are all talking about the same Chris O, one of the nicest men you could ever meet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 LB, the day The Pope carries your cartridge bag, will be the day you have the edge over me. Although I may be shooting a semi the next time we meet. We are all talking about the same Chris O, one of the nicest men you could ever meet. So Mr Cranfield you have thrown down the gauntlet I was dragged up hard line Catholic for 16 years so I may have to call in some chips or, I could just poke your good eye out in the car park. The rule is SA's can only be used if the shooter wears full cammo LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 A friend damaged his Beretta leaning it against his car. Inevitably it fell. Similar damage. A local gunsmith made an impressive repair on it, he used a special tool to lift the rib, and i think the small dent was filled with solder then re blacked. The marks can be found if you know the history and where to look but its otherwise invisible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Price street Birmingham is the place ..... there are a few barrel boys there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 i dropt my pigeon and damaged the top barrel took it to bisley today to get it lookt at .they are sending it to cornwall at a cost of £200 to repair but better than £700 for new ones . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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