Chloe Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Hey, As going by our dog’s names seems to be the cool thing to do these day’s I thought I’d register as mine Anyway, it’s Jess here, and I just thought I should have my say after being shown what has been posted on here the last couple of days. Firstly, I’d like to say that I don’t at all question the fact that I was banned. I’m the first to admit that, although I do have an interest in shooting (and many other ‘country sports’), I have never participated in it myself. If the admin feels this is reason enough to ban me, it’s his forum and that’s his decision. The reason I’m posting is because I’m not very happy about some of the reasons given for banning me. I’m not going to question Aled’s banning. I personally think there’s a few people who should have been banned before him, and find the excuse for banning him very weak, but again that’s Teal’s decision and any further talk of that decision should be between Teal and Aled. I will say though, that I’m quite shocked at some of the things Teal has said as a reason for banning me. His first reason I believe was that my posts had filtered into shooting related topics and taken them off-topic. I certainly can’t remember doing this as, although I read many of the shooting topics as I was interested in seeing what people said, I didn’t really have anything to say in response to them having no experience of shooting. The other excuse I believe was that I have not been shooting (fair enough, that’s true), and that it was ‘never on the cards’. Teal knows for a fact that this isn’t true as at one point it was him who was going to take me shooting!!! I resent the fact that he would say this to apparently make out that I was lying about my reasons for being on this site, and I don’t really understand the point of saying this. I am going shooting. As some of you know I’ve been unable to go as I’d planned to before Christmas but I am going, though I will be finding another forum to discuss any further shooting I do… I don’t wish to sound as though I’m trying to make out that I shouldn’t be banned as clearly, this forum is changing and wants members to be active participants in pigeon shooting. I would however, question some of the actions of the administrator with regards to the treatment of members. I was quite shocked that after a picture of myself being posted on here without my consent, when I asked for it to be removed (by PM to Teal) it was ignored and the picture stayed up for a long time after I asked for it to be taken down. This has nothing to do with shooting, and it’s not highlighting any major problem with the forum but it does maybe show some lack of respect for some of the members of this forum or some immaturity in regards to the moderation of the forum. Finally, I would also add that it would have been nice to have been notified of the reasons for being banned. I know myself and Aled didn’t receive an email or any kind of explanation for why we were banned. Admittedly, the administrator doesn’t HAVE to notify members of why they were banned, but it would surely be the polite thing to do, especially after I emailed him asking the reasons. I know members in the past have always been told why, and I found it quite rude considering I had never been abusive to members and had never posted anything inappropriate as far as I was aware. Anyway, I just felt that after seeing all the stuff that has been written about why people were being banned that I, after having been banned, should have my say. I have tried to discuss this privately with Teal but have had no response from him so decided that I would post on here. Obviously, I respect the decision to ban me and will not post further on this forum. Happy Shooting Everyone! Jess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antuk99 Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 look after yourself happy shooting rotton way to go bet the antis are laughing their heads off regarding shooting every 1 got to start somewhere i don't go out as much as some people the posts show alot of office pen pushers on this site or alot of retired people i know this is harsh but look at our Tony he likes banning too the powers that be eh ! shooting is a popular sport also a lonly 1 either shooting clays i see alot of single shooters turning up at our club patiantly waiting to be partnered also out in the field protecting shooting rights ect this forum has helped me through alot very informative shooters 4 shooters but i started here don't let this burden ya keep up at it be proud of our sport every not alot of people are understanding cor blimy aint i wafflin but stick at it sports growing basc knows this by introducing the young shots program so knuckle down stay with us and lets show these antis look forward to more posts sorry for wafflin on abit but i cant just sit back at this i thaught aled was ok he has posted some really helpfull posts but you know what does he know ....more than me well gotta go back up to scotland shopfitting oh why does work have to spoil things 1 min to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owenwill Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Well said Jess. My wife likes to read the posts sometimes, she's never been shooting, should I ban her?! Surely those that have an intrest in our sport should be welcome aswell as those of us who participate in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Beasley Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 This really is sad. Shame Aled and Jess got banned. No wonder Fred Carter gave this site a slagging in the magazine. It does seem to be getting very "clicky" here. Its hardly as if those two were abusive/antis. They were both INTERESTED in the sport and banning them has denied them the opportunity of taking part. I propose we have a new smiley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 I'd agree with that Will. Anyone who is even remotely interested in what we do should have the right to frequent these boards. More members means more support Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb5037 Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 All the best Jess. Don't think you should log off this site though. I think the mod's have made their point and there shouldn't be any problem you staying a member (if you wish to). As long as we all keep the site running in the way the mod's want us to then i think you should be ok. If you have made your mind up to go the i wish you all the best in future shooting. All the best Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Fair play... but..... A quick check of your previous 25 posts made over a period of under 5 days: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...sult_type=posts Shows not a single one to do with shooting at all. Going through the next lot it's the same story again... and again... In fact the most shooting related post I can find going back in reverse chronological order (December the 13th) is: Hmmm... Well, i only really know person who shoots and im certainly not paying to take him on holiday... confused.gif And i dont even know where a clay ground is near me!! lol Check it out for yourself. I wonder if she was just using the site as a chatroom to try and hook up with someone, because from all the posts I could make out it really doesn't seem like she has a keen interest in shooting. Regards, William Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyni Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Iv'e said nothing on the recent banning and changes to the forum but Teal has a good point above. I think it would be a good idea if people reflected back on thier last 25 posts to see what input they have here. That being said there is nothing wrong with having a bit of fun along the way. I do think a warning before banning would have been more appropriate e.g. 3 strikes and your out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloe Posted January 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 I won’t be staying on the forum. The fact that I was banned has shown that I am not welcome here for whatever reasons and I do not plan to stay around somewhere I am not welcome!! I do post on other forums so will not miss this place too much as I suspect some more of the people from here may start appearing on those forums. I will say to Teal that your reply to my post was not only weak, but fairly pathetic!!! Suggesting that I’ve joined this forum to ‘hook up with someone’?! What is that all about? Again, this shows your immaturity in regards to this site and your moderation of it if you actually used this as an excuse to ban me (which I don’t believe you did. I believe there is a totally different reason for banning me which I won’t go into on here). I’m also quite impressed with your ability to totally over look the other points directed towards you in my post and focus on the fact that I haven’t posted in shooting related topics. I have explained why I did this so don’t feel the need to do it again, but I will also mention that the ‘banter’ over the last couple of weeks is hardly typical of all of my posts, and if you look at previous threads, there were very few shooting related topics, and many humorous topics. I can only assume by you ignoring everything else I said that you admit that you acted wrongly and have nothing else to say about these problems I have mentioned. Anyway, unless anyone feels the need to post more nonsense I shall leave it at that!!! I hope to speak to you all soon… I really do hope this forum doesn’t die out, though I suspect it may go very much downhill… Jess P.S. Aled would like me to add that anyone who wishes to contact him for any reason can do via MSN or email on this address: cky_d@hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTaylor2k4 Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Jess can come for a shooting session with me anyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 I'm totally behind teal in regards the banning of Jess because I don't think she contributed anything to this site in terms of shooting and half the members wouldn't have bothered replying to her if she hadn't been a girl. But Aled's banning may have been harsh , but I can't really argue with the powers to be, it's there dicision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTaylor2k4 Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Aled if your reading this make a new account and come back! lol i miss the funny comments, i'll add you to msn when i get it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Yeah aled was funny. It was his utterly outrageous comments that gave this site some comedy value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 I'm totally behind teal in regards the banning of Jess because I don't think she contributed anything to this site in terms of shooting and half the members wouldn't have bothered replying to her if she hadn't been a girl. But Aled's banning may have been harsh , but I can't really argue with the powers to be, it's there dicision. You are probably right she did not contribute but did she realy detract from the site so badly?? If people are distracted so easily maybe it is concentation coaching they kneed? It takes all sorts to make the world go round. Jess may just have been bitten by the shooting bug and become a diehard shooter like many on here but I guess now she probably wont bother if she thinks all shooters are as dissmisive of people who are not already experts in the field. Dave PS We all started somewhare!! Some of Us were not born in to shooting fammilies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloe Posted January 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Ok, i think this has got out of hand anyway now... This site has certainly not put me off shooting. I got on very well with a lot of members and certainly dont think they're dismissive of those of us who haven't been shooting. I actually like this site and do think that Teal and Ernyha do a good job of moderating it (if maybe a little strict) considering the amount of pressure on them to return it to a 'shooting only' site. And to be honest, i totally agree with Ollie. If this was my site i would have banned me!! But i can assure you i haven't been put off shooting, I've just found out where my local clay ground is (after having driven past it every day for the last few years!!! ) so as soon as im up and around again i shall be having a go!!!! Maybe i'll be able to contribute more the the other forums i am on once i've actually been shooting!!! Anyway, i'll stop winding you up now Will You do a good job, i certainly wouldn't want to do it!! Im going to leave this now, as i hope everyone else will, and maybe this thread should be closed as theres not much more to add to it i think! Take Care Guys, Jess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.... FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbuild Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 'Evil be to he who thinks of evil.' What do you mean by that FM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 I suppose its another way of saying; "Judge ye not less ye be judged" or "Let him without sin cast the first stone" I am sure we all venture off the beaten track with our posts once and a while I would have thought a written warning would have been sufficient although I do appreciate this is not a lonely hearts club ! Fm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Got any tips for this weekend Mike? Picked up the local rag from the newsagents my way to work. Front page news Some local pensioner had a 40pence lucky 15 last week and picked up just over £47000 Wish I could get tips like that from someone? Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Got any tips for this weekend Mike? Picked up the local rag from the newsagents my way to work. Front page news Some local pensioner had a 40pence lucky 15 last week and picked up just over £47000 Wish I could get tips like that from someone? Jonno Not a sausage mate... My Contact has gone to the Sales in America and wont be back for a week or two. Lucky so and so. If I hear anything I will let you all Know. FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Sorry if I seem to be a bit thick …..but why should anyone be banned just because they don’t shoot? I could understand it if they were opposed to shooting, and were posting anti-shooting vitriol, but to ban them for not being an active shooter seems strange, after all a lot of people come to these forums for information prior to applying for their certificates, and sometimes before even taking up shooting. I know I’m not as familiar with Aled as the rest of you, but I can’t see from the postings that I have seen up to yet, why he should have been banned. (If there is another post somewhere that I haven’t seen then please let me know). G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene molloy Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Gem, I’m not as familiar with Aled as the rest of you, Buy a Lotto ticket whilst your running hot! Eug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Gem,I’m not as familiar with Aled as the rest of you, Buy a Lotto ticket whilst your running hot! Eug LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squintshot Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Heres my tuppence worth for what it's worth. I have never in my life as yet shot a pigeon (not for want of trying after all I am squintshot), but I do shoot regularly. My spelling though far far better than Aleds, can be terrible. I am often cheeky thought hopefully not offensive. I aslo cause devaitions from threads and post nonsense. Will I be banned??? The cause of a deviation from original content cannot souly be placed at the feet of the poster of the rouge comment, everyone that responds to this is also at fault as it's up to them to change track or ignore the comments and go back to the original subject. Teal a note on shooting related posts. A quick look at your own profile shows that over one quarter (28%) of your posts are in General Banter. According to your good self this is to "Talk about things other than shooting...". That is non shooting related posts are you going to ban yourself?? Squint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 I think the "non shooting posts" comment, referred to these type of posts on Forums outside of General Banter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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