Fatcatsplat Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Anyone know of a clay ground in Essex or Kent that has a pattern plate that you can use? It's something that is often recommended on PW but I've never actually seen one, let alone used one - Would love to have a go, just to see where my aim/shot placement goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Braintree has one. Or at least did under previous management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyoftheboy Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 west kent has one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomleatel Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 How much is it to use at West Kent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyoftheboy Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 not sure Terry...... I know is free to members.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomleatel Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Are You a member? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 All you need is some 30inch diameter card circles and a post to staple them on . You can shoot away to your hearts content .Thats what i do . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 They all do them, just ask. I think Fyfield charge £1 a large cardboard sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomleatel Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I didn't realise it was so cheap.... Will be having ago at that on Monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Braintree was free if you took you own card board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomleatel Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 On a side note i would not fancy braintree and that huge tower in this wind :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 On a side note i would not fancy braintree and that huge tower in this wind :look: As i recall i don't think any of us fancied it last time with NO wind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomleatel Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 LOL :look: What was it 50 shots and only 2 or 3 kills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Beware of pattern plating..!! I used to try all sorts of shells through all sorts of chokes many years back in my eternal quest to find the perfect shell / choke combination, all I learned was that a full choke throws a marginally tighter pattern at 30 yards than does a skeet choke. :look: A bit of a no brainer really, the best way to use a pattern plate is for newbies to check whether their gun shoots where they think it's shooting, i.e. dead flat, dead centre, (for Sporting clays), as for trying out different makes of shells and choke combo's....forget it, it'll do your head in..!! Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Beware of pattern plating..!! I used to try all sorts of shells through all sorts of chokes many years back in my eternal quest to find the perfect shell / choke combination, all I learned was that a full choke throws a marginally tighter pattern at 30 yards than does a skeet choke. A bit of a no brainer really, the best way to use a pattern plate is for newbies to check whether their gun shoots where they think it's shooting, i.e. dead flat, dead centre, (for Sporting clays), as for trying out different makes of shells and choke combo's....forget it, it'll do your head in..!! Cat. Been there ,done that cat . You finish up with part boxes of cartridges that you think are useless . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 As an addition to Cats comments, the only only time i used a pattern plate was when i'd adjusted to comb height of my gun and wanted to confirm that where i was pointing it was were it was shooting. It was, i was happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I hear talk about card and such, but my ground has a huge steel plate that I whitewash every time its 'full' of patterns. Is this normall, or are the card systems more common ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I hear talk about card and such, but my ground has a huge steel plate that I whitewash every time its 'full' of patterns. Is this normall, or are the card systems more common ? Yes ,thats a proper pattern plate . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Whatever shows up the shots hits. Whitewash or card, make no difference. The one time i did it i used a flattened box with a 'center' point marked for me to aim at (or 'point at' if an anal types are reading). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 if an anal types are reading). Can almost be guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted December 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Cheers chaps - As has been said, i just wanted to make sure that I was shooting in the right direction so i can tick another one off from my list of excuses for missing. As far as chokes and cartidges go, i don't think i want to go there as it's a wee bit technical for me!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy W Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I recently patterned my newly aquired Benelli M2 and my existing Miroku MK38 teague sporter on brown paper attached to a plate, my mate Pair Away also did his Miroku with compenchokes fitted. My M2 performed best with 1/2 crio choke and hit where I looked with an even pattern, the Mk38 with teagues were a huge dissapointment with 1/4 & 1/2 choke, the pattern was full of holes, now Tims compenchokes were superb and a good pattern. Plates are very useful and worth doing just to see how concentrated the shot is for example, with a 1/4 teague the upper left of the pattern was non existant, a clay could easilly escape unscathed there, the paper doesnt lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 a clay could easilly escape unscathed there, the paper doesnt lie. This is a very dangerous assumption, as don't forget that on a pattern plate you're only looking at the pattern in two dimensions, and not seeing the length of "shot string", nor allowing for the fact that the clay is generally moving as well. A shot charge travels in an ever lengthening cone shape, with it's base at the front, and it's almost impossible for a clay at NORMAL range to pass through a shot charge without being hit. Newbies tend to make this mistake when shooting at rolling rabbits, it emerges unbroken through the cloud of dust and they proclaim that it "rolled through the pattern", well, it didn't, they simply missed it in front. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyoftheboy Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Terry.... in response to your earlier question, yes am a member of W. Kent. & I think is only £1 or £2 for non members.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I think a pattern plate is good for checking how good a pattern is, or isn`t, with large lettered shot. It also shows how good a pattern you get with buffered loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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