Breastman Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Ok, I’m sure this will have been asked a thousand times before but here we go again! I mainly shoot full bore rifles, and shotguns, I’ve had 2 rimfire rifles in the past but they were just ‘fun’ guns (SGC V22-now sold & currently have a GSG-5). I’m now after something more practical for pest control because as well as the fact you can’t practically put a mod on a GSG-5, its not exactly a ‘public friendly’ rifle to be out walking with! I’m after something in either .22lr or .17HMR. My immediate thought was a Sako Quad as I can then have the best of both worlds but from reading some threads on here it would seem it doesn’t work very well because of extraction problems when using .22lr. It also seems to be expensive for what you get and you can’t buy ‘short’ barrels fitted, you have to get them smithed – more expense. How much are additional barrels btw? Although I’m still open to the Quad I’d like to size up some other options as well. In my local RFD theres a few CZ rifles which appear to be just over half the price of a Quad but obviously they’re only a single calibre. Are they any good ‘out of the box’ or do they need new triggers etc? I should say that I’m virtually allergic to wooden guns so would only be after something with a synthetic stock. It would be used at the range (just plinking/zeroing nothing serious but functional reliability essential) as well as in the field. I’ve got about £700 to spend on the rifle. And the next question – a scope. I’m after something with a minimum of 12x mag but preferably up to 16x. With it going on a rimfire i'd prefer that it isn’t almost as big as the rifle! I’ve been looking at MTC scopes which have the right kind of price but they seem to be pretty big like AGS scopes. I usually go for Leupold’s as they’re quite compact for the level of magnification you get but I begrudge spending that amount of money on a scope for a rifle that won’t be used all that much/that seriously. I’ve got £200-300 to spend on a scope. Suggestions, what you have (pics ) would be greatly appreciated! Cheers Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 i use a cz sythetic .22,cracking gun,trigger a little heavy,but for 12 quid you can get new spring kit to alter that,accurate enough for bunnies,can get same gun in .17 too,for the price you can have both for the money you got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie 1 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 as said above really m8. u can't beat a cz. i shoot a 22 cz style and love it. you can alter the trigger so it is lighter than factory setting by turning one of the screws. i have and have no probs with heavy trigger. also you can get the real short barrels which is perfect out of a vehical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 BUMP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 i have a 10/22, black synthetic stock, 30 round mags, upgraded extractor, trigger, extended mag release... the only original bits are the receiver and the barrel i think gun cost £245, spent almost £600 on everything else but you can do it cheaper, and its a semi auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I've got a .22lr Quad. The extraction problems aren't a big deal to me. An unfired round can be easily removed manually, yes I agree it shouldn't need to be but that's how it is at the moment. If I'm in a hurry, find a safe backstop and pop, no more problem. The HMR barrel doesn't have that problem. Only shot a CZ once. I didn't like the set trigger at all. But, that's not a criticism of the rifle or brand. Personally I'd go for the CZ American as I prefer the stock on it to the other CZ rimfires. Horses for courses really, it's about what you're happy with and how much you've got for spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scout Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 CZ is the way forward , you could get both the 22 and 17 for your money. I've got the American stock, but it was a close call as the style is noce to hand and looks good also. Like the 16" barrel, great from the truck. Very reliable and accurate straight out of the box. I did put the Erik Brookes trigger kit on, cost about £10 and took 5 minutes to do, but this was through choice rather than neccesity. I put an MTC scope on it as it was nice and cheap, it does get knowcked around a bit, but it's a tool to do a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Thanks for the replies so far keep them coming! John, is the extraction problem only when you try to eject unfired rounds or does it happen to spent cases as well? If its the former that isn't a problem for me and i'd be able to get the order in today! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) So you have a £1k budget. This is the way I'd go... CZ HMR, whatever model you like the look of (about £300) Leupold VX-III 4.5-14x50 Long Range Rifle Scope and some good mounts (about £500) SAK moderator (about £30) Harris 9-13" swivel Bipod (about £70) Cluson shootalite lamp kit (maybe £70) There's your grand gone, and you'll have a full bunny bashing kit for day and night. The rifle is just as accurate as the more expensive ones, you'll have a very good scope with enough zoom for fairly precise shooting, but whilst keeping the low mag for if something comes out of the hedge really close to you and you need to get the mag right down. I have a CZ, my mate has a quad. Both of us can shoot clover leaf groups at 100 yards from prone. Edited January 14, 2009 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 im looking for a rimmy at the moment too, ive decided on the CZ 452 range, from what everyone tells me theyr the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Seems to me you've got your budgets crossed! Spend the £700 on a decent scope and buy a less expensive rifle. I use both a CZ r/f .17HMR and c/f .243 for one reason; they are the best value for money rifles on the market AND they are a workhorse, standing up to all sorts of harsh treatment. For the money you can't buy a better rifle and unless you're a range boar in an anorak they're as accurate as you want out of the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsportshooter Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 QUAD - Never had any extraction issues with the .22lr (eleys) or .17HMR (CCIs) barrels. I am however selling my .22lr barrel to fund towards a .223 if your interested in buying a QUAD get the .17 HMR and I'll do you a deal on my .22lr screwcut Barrel and a mag to suit.... Cheers Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I may well be interested Mike. The slot i have on my ticket is .17HMR bolt action rifle + .22lr spare barrel so i'd need to buy it in that configuration anyway. Think i may have a jaunt to the RFD at the weekend and have a hands on look at the CZ's he's got and see how much he can get a Quad for. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsportshooter Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Remember the CZ is cheaper but 'out of the box' the quad is better (trigger, bolt, build quality etc) consider this when equating the overall cost for comparison. (oh and the quad looks so much better) If your interested send me a PM when you make up your mind and we'll discuss costs etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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