huey Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I have recently noticed a noise coming from my Betty when I tip it forward then back (ie tip barrels forward then lift them up again) the noise is metalic and sounds like something is sliding forward then back. Is this normal or do I need to be thinking about a trip to the guns smith? Any help appreciated.. huey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 defo not normal mate, now at a guess, your stock bolt could of come lose but the stock my be still held tight as sometimes there tight even when your taking them off, id take the recoil pad off and heve a look there first, if not then it could well be something in the action, but i have no idea what, either or, you dont want to be using it whilst its making a noise like you describe, get it looked at, and let us know how you get on, rgds, Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 It could be something inside the rib (particularly if it is ventilated). I've had that happen on a few guns - nothing to worry about IMHO. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winshooter Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I have recently noticed a noise coming from my Betty when I tip it forward then back (ie tip barrels forward then lift them up again) the noise is metalic and sounds like something is sliding forward then back. This model is a boxlock. Where is the metallic noise coming from? The action area? If you break the barrels do you still hear the noise? Difficult to determine what the problem is but no shotgun that I'm aware of should make a noise just by raising or lowering the barrel. It's possible that the washer attached to the stock bolt is loose and making noise but you would be able to hear it and feel it in the after part of the stock. I've also heard that the Bettinsoli has had problems with the monoblock cracking. Is this normal or do I need to be thinking about a trip to the guns smith? Not normal......take it in is my recommendation. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 try breaking the bun and tipping forward - does it still happen? look at the position of the lover firing pin is it slightly out? a rough area the noise is coming from would help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfa taf Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 My guess the Rib may have come partly unstack where the soldering is. I hade same problem with an old S/S . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huey Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 The noise is coming from the action, I was wondering if it was the locking bar (which runs parallel with the barrels in the base of the guns action) which is moving back and forth. Should this item move freely? Cheers for replys to date but keep em coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 its normal mine does it and so does my m8s it in the action unsure what its called its the bit that swaps over barrels dont worry about it..anouther thing to look out for is forends comeing loose.........prone to this as wood shrinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huey Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Cheers sparkie save me a trip to the smiths. Huey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR JAMES Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 its normal mine does it and so does my m8s it in the action unsure what its called its the bit that swaps over barrels dont worry about it..anouther thing to look out for is forends comeing loose.........prone to this as wood shrinks Cheers sparkie save me a trip to the smiths. Huey Sorry but SPARKIE is wrong in my eyes as I have a Bettinsoli Talento and this is what happened to mine the bar should not slide back and forward freely - There is a spring of some kind which has snapped it cost me i think £25.00 or £30.00 for a local gun smiths to fix it and service it at the same time. It will not cause you any harm as fare as i am aware of as i used mine for ages with the noise until some one on a shoot had a look at it and told me what was wrong with it. YOU NEED TO GET IT FIXED M8 Hope I have helped u. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNicholls Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) I have just checked mine and the bar does indeed seem to be spring loaded, it certainly does not slide back and forward. I have emailed Ruag for the definitive answer and will post their reply here. (Edited after checking the gun) Edited February 16, 2009 by ChrisNicholls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNicholls Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 A very prompt response from Ruag, the importers of Bettinsoli. Chris, The black bar in the bottom of the action should not move freely and from your description I am fairly certain the cocking dog spring has broken and needs replacing. The gun will still function but eventually when you get a nice high overhead bird it will let you down ! Any queries please contact me. Regards Philip Unwin, Managing Director, RUAG Ammotec UK Ltd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huey Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 This confirms my suspicion and it's a relief to be safe in the knowleadge that the gun is functional but is not dangerous. Sounds like a trip to the local gun smiths, mustn't grumble as I have had the gun 3 years without a hitch or a service, until now that is! Thanks for the replys lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_a Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hi did you get this fixed? If so roughly how much and where? Im in the North East andthe same has just happend to mine. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huey Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I have booked it into Weldon gun room for a full service and repair, I have been quoted £45+ VAT. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 try breaking the bun and tipping forward - does it still happen? look at the position of the lover firing pin is it slightly out? a rough area the noise is coming from would help What is a Lover Firing Pin ? Is this legal or only after marriage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_a Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Thanks.. Took it to Weldon this morning and he fixed it straight away. I only bought the gun s/h from him last week so it was free of charge. Mine didnt just rattle but stopped firing on the bottom barrel occasionaly, all sorted now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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