MM Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Another keyboard warrior! Making myself look a **** with the "I'm ok Jack!" band of brothers! I can live with that you just tear people apart who can't and will not stand up for themselves! So who's the ****?. Moral might be; register on here, make some effort to join in, make a few (online) friends, offer some advice, help etc then and only THEN ask about the possibilities of getting some shooting and I’m willing to bet some nice friendly chap (yes there are a few on here ) will offer something. That's what happend to me , I have had numerous "NO" so have no where to shoot vermin , a member on here Martin Moreton was asking if any newbies wanted to tag along on his permission , so I now know (if ever I get a permission) what to do , and how to conduct my self , and because of Martin's generosity I too will offer places to others who would not be as fortunate as me , that could be next week or 12 months away I'm still at the knocking on doors stage , so to finish off, a big thank you to Martin and p-a-s- and the other members who give people like me a chance, :good: Ferreter, read what |Mick has wrote here. this is exactly the way it works. Getting a shoot is hard, keeping it is even harder. Folk will not give up land they have worked hard to get, the only way is to get out there and find it yourself. If you are willing to make the effort on the forum, you might find yourself being offered along on a shoot with sombody who has enough land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) It works both ways a couple of years ago i asked on here for someone to shoot a farm for me that was too far away for me to go regularly 1.1/2 hrs just to get there.. A member from the forum was local to the shoot about 30 min away took him up and introduced him to the farmer who was always having trouble with jackdaws and rooks mainly.. Had a call last year from the farmer only to be told he had not been anywhere near the place.. That really pizzed me of after the trouble i took to get the farmer to let him shoot instead of me, i now have a husband and wife team that i have been told go quite regular and there is also loads of rabbits.. So as for helping new people to find shoots im afraid once bitten twice shy.. And for the record i have shooting on 3 golf courses and over 30 farms at my disposal and i have mates that i take with me.. And before the knockers start i have only asked for shooting on 2 farms the rest asked me because we did a good job and were trusted in fact we have just got more shooting this week on a load of new bean drillings shot one field yesterday ended up with over 60 this farmer has fields all over the place big farming family and we have his brothers places as well.. Edited April 1, 2009 by hawkeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammokid Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) so after all does anyone no where ferreter can ****** let off some steam iam with u thou ferret! Edited April 2, 2009 by henry d Swearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchester energy Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) It looks as if my wanted ad thingy has had an effect on some of us on here?...I appreciate the support of people like ferreter and TRY to smile at the sarcastic replies. Its a great shame that the shooting fraternity cannot just support each other with a little more encouragement? I do appreciate that ALOT of shooters have a vast amount of experience over little old me and many have excellent farming contacts which give them days out that some of us would die for. I dont suppose anything will come from this "wanted" but hey..........its worth a try! Edited April 2, 2009 by winchester energy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubix Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I think it was the phrase 'shooting on YOUR land' that wound people up. It's like saying 'want to come round to your house and drink your beer'. Although, when you get some shooting you're probably elbowing someone else off it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilstoat Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 It looks as if my wanted ad thingy has had an effect on some of us on here?...I appreciate the support of people like ferreter and TRY to smile at the sacastic replies. Its a great shame that the shooting fraternity cannot just support each other with a little more encouragement?I do appreciate that ALOT of shooters have a vast amount of experience over little old me and many have excellent farming contacts which give them days out that some of us would die for. I dont suppose anything will come from this "wanted" but hey..........its worth a try! Don't worry about the post, this forum has members with alot of different opinions, also don't get disheartened, it has been known for members to take newbies along with them, there was apost not so long ago with a member called p-a-s asking if a newbie wanted to go shooting, sometimes he will ask who is interested in going with him. It's not all doom and gloom on this forum, there are alot of good people who frequent this board, and it runs very well, apart from the odd troll, it's all good. You need to take some critisism with a pinch of salt, not everybody offers good advice, and not everyone is on cloud 9 24/7, which i'm sure you aren't all the time. you will get somewhere, i am going to go on another sorty looking for land soon as i want to go for my FAC, and need some extra space for that. Hope you hang in there and find some permissions, this is what most of the members here do, some have simply built up reputation overs a number of years, for their saftey, and responsability while out, i'm sure you are safe, and responsible, but it takes alot of trust for a landowner to let somebody he's not that familiar with on his land, especially with a firearm. Hope all goes well, and the best of luck Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchester energy Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Thanks "spaniel" for the support.......I can see that the majority of folk see me as a grabbing bustard so I will gladly take off my wanted add until I have matured within the realms of the Shooting world...........SORRY PEOPLE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p-a-s Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 *** this section is shooting wanted.if a member is getting pulled to pieces for asking its a bads do. winchester energy, re post your request and ignore the knockers.as the old saying goes if you dont ask you dont get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubix Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Yes, post and ask. In reality, they could rename this section 'Grabbing other people's shooting from under their noses - tips and advice', because that's what many view it as. The funny thing is that's what many do, although they dress it up as 'person with permission was not turning up/doing a good job/letting their mates on etc. so farmer 'asked' me ' People having a go at you really mean 'stay away from mine'. Ask again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) I can see why people didn't like this one with you being so new on here but I'm with ferreter on this one, why tear into the guy? Ok, it maybe could've been worded better but so what!? I've seen this on every forum I've ever been part of and until now I thought I'd finaly found one that was different. There's a "holier than thou" attitude on these things that just isn't right. For example, if a friend of yours told you he'd shot a partridge (out of season and no game license), would you really rip into him/her? Of course not, you'd point out that they'd done wrong and tell them when the season starts and finishes and that they'd need a license and permission to shoot game somewhere. That's not how it works online though - people are too quick to jump up and down with "it's irresponsible" or "it's illeagal". Why not offer some advise rather than "going off on one" I know some did, eventually. But I thought the idea of forums like this were for people of a shared interest to help eachother out best of luck winchester, you'll find a lot of good tips in the "help and adise" section (still under "gaining permission &shooting oppertunities"). Lighten up lads, we're all here for the same reason at the end of the day Edited April 5, 2009 by fieldwanderer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 4 replies to this thread before ferreter stuck his bit in. i still cant see where anyone ripped into him. but there again if the OP cant be bothered to let folk know a bit about himself, the guns he uses, age, experience.ETC. can you blame people for not leaping forward with land in hand for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgunshortie Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) With you all the way ferreter!! I thought the sport of pigeon shoooting was free from stuck up ***** but clearly ive been proved wrong by some resposes in this forum. I thought people came in here to be informed and help out fellow shooters not tear them to shreds as they are trying to get invlolved in a sport that most of us know and love. How are people supposed to find a way into this sport if people hurl abuse at them as soon as they step foot in a forum of alledged like minded people. If you cant give a positive reponse to a post, dont bother wasting your energy even typing!!!!! Edited May 19, 2009 by Axe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 With you all the way ferreter!! I thought the sport of pigeon shoooting was free from stuck up TW*ATS but clearly ive been proved wrong by some resposes in this forum. I thought people came in here to be informed and help out fellow shooters not tear them to shreds as they are trying to get invlolved in a sport that most of us know and love. How are people supposed to find a way into this sport if people hurl abuse at them as soon as they step foot in a forum of alledged like minded people. If you cant give a positive reponse to a post, dont bother wasting your energy even typing!!!!! How on earth is someone a stuck up **** ??Someone didnt offer shooting to a person they have never met,know nothing about or even where he is from and you think people are stuck up ***** for not offering him shooting.....get a grip son. The only people that have hurled anything resembling abuse are the muppets that have come on and posted garbage like yours. I wish the bloke well in getting some shooting cos i know how hard it is to get but within a few posts saying" i want shooting on your land" is not the way to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) No-one's said people should say "here you go, you can shoot here" but imho the sarcasm was uncalled for. Would it not have been better to say "you've not been on here long, it would help if you told us a little about yourself (shooting-wise) and if you look in the help and advice section you'll find lots of good tips"? Or just not replied!? "if you've nowt good to say - say nowt!" lol No offence intended to anyone, and the o/p could've worded things a lot better but we've all gotta start somewhere. Edited April 6, 2009 by fieldwanderer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 I have noticed that none of those sticking up for ferreter have offered up their land to be shot on. NTTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 I have noticed that none of those sticking up for ferreter have offered up their land to be shot on. NTTF Fair point, in my case the farmer's stressed just me and my mate who got the permission (together) in the first place, no guests etc. He even stated it on my written permission that I asked him to do for the police! My point was about the sarcasm though, like I've said above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 With you all the way ferreter!! I thought the sport of pigeon shoooting was free from stuck up TW*ATS but clearly ive been proved wrong by some resposes in this forum. I thought people came in here to be informed and help out fellow shooters not tear them to shreds as they are trying to get invlolved in a sport that most of us know and love. How are people supposed to find a way into this sport if people hurl abuse at them as soon as they step foot in a forum of alledged like minded people. If you cant give a positive reponse to a post, dont bother wasting your energy even typing!!!!! so whats you point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 wonder how some would go on if the forums did not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 wonder how some would go on if the forums did not exist. makes you wonder if they had to tie their own shoe laces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 oh dear oh dear...a firey one that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I've noticed that them that's complaining the most have the least posts to their names. have they sprung up recently because it's been half term perchance? Well I suppose it keeps them off street corners drinking white lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miroku4399 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I have just read all the posts about this, if this bloke ferreter thinks that this is the way to get people to take him out he is wrong i have only been on here a short while but i am one of the lucky ones as i have somewhere to go, but i was invited out recently by another member and i have taken out a new member also but ferreter you sound like someone who expects everyone to bend over backwards to help you out Get a grip of yourself and adjust your attitude !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 When i posted on here last year about my redundancy and moving to wales to get a job, a couple of the guys offered to take me shooting there until i found some permissions of my own again. So its not all doom and gloom. No-one offered in Kent yet though..................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicle Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I’ve read each page of this and find it funny, don’t ask me why I just do.... I’ve been a member of this forum for a few years now although I haven’t posted a great deal, mainly because I’ve had nothing to say and I’m not one for getting involved in the sometimes petty bitching by a very small minority that can’t take humour for what it is..... I do however look at the shooting wanted / shooting available every time I log on, why? because someone may be offering a day’s shooting in my area which is in my mind a result but at the same time I also look for members local to one of my own permissions that may like a day out, and yes I have offered members of the forum a day’s shooting which were taken up and a good day was had by all. The long and the short of it is we all want land to shoot over and enough is never enough for some people and they are very protective of what they have as are we all with our own permissions. I love to shoot and can’t think of a better way to spend the weekend, at the same time it is a sport that we all enjoy and therefore say we should encourage those less fortunate them ourselves to become active members (more than me) and get to know people on the forum, offer their views on different subject and most importantly ask question of those that are more knowledgeable of all thing shooting, once you have made friends you’ll find people will offer you a day out and if you’re really lucky you may even get a slot on the land as I did for someone (they didn’t take it up though?) One last thing......if you read winchester energy’s profile he now has a farm to shoot over..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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