mossy835 Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 been looking on a usa shooting forum, and top clay shooters over there do not put choke tubes in there guns,and say it will not hurt the gun.the chokes screw back in ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 a few shots wont hurt but after a time the top of the threads in the barrel will start turning over and make your chokes tight when you do put them in. worse still, the pressure build up behind your wadding and the thinner wall thickness ,(which will be about half due to no chokes) will start to swell the end of the barel ending up like a blunderbuss barrel. this will take many thousands of shots but within a year you could end up with loose chokes. or, tight chokes with a bad thread. either way could be dangerous. just leave them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Mossy - they are talking rubbish. It isn't rocket science to realise that the threads will be damaged. If they can't see it, they are idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raistrick Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 I can't see why they would want to take them out... just use the cylinder surely? Can't you even get negative chokes now that widen towards the end? Sounds crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 They just want the blunderbuss effect, bless 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiganut Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 I have still got one of the first Laber m/c,most open choke is 1/4,so when shooting a flush they came out,it worked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notsosureshot Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Americans have the luxury of cheap guns for any form of shooting and will care not for the potential damage this may cause. I've seen how they treat their pistols. For me, understandably, a £500 pistol is gold dust, to them, just an easily replaceable asset. Kind of explains why all the best shotguns are English really. Unscrewing chokes is for those who have deep pockets and perhaps, little regard for future safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 it will damage the threads, is unsafe and just stupid in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Americans don't walk around clayshoots, they ride on golf carts. If they had to walk they would unscrew their brains to save carrying them around.But being as they obviously do not have brains they don't have to bother. I have not heard such stupid advice. Leave choke tubes in and save damaing the threads. If you reload using size seven shot and wrap a lettuce leaf around the wad, try shooting just in front of a rabbit clay and it will roll into your shotpattern attracted by the lettuce leaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigG Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 been looking on a usa shooting forum, and top clay shooters over there do not put choke tubes in there guns,and say it will not hurt the gun.the chokes screw back in ok. Could this have been a 1st April joke in the US, cant see any benefit they generally much more choke & load obsessed than we are? 1/2 & 1/2 for Sporting..... Skeet & Skeet for.... you guessed it ..........! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Could this have been a 1st April joke in the US, cant see any benefit they generally much more choke & load obsessed than we are? 1/2 & 1/2 for Sporting..... Skeet & Skeet for.... you guessed it ..........! They're dead serious! I certainly wouldn't do it, but you know what Americans are like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windknot Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I've also seen references to shooting without choke tubes installed on Shotgun World. And yet they won't touch (as a rule) fibre wad loads because of the allegedly poor patterns. I'd be very,very hesitant to do it with a lead load, wouldn't dream of doing it with a steel cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Think we all need to stop yankee-bashing. A few months back I would have been the same, but after talking to LeeInVA you soon realise they aint all that stoooopid. Idiots exist in every walk of life, its just the SGC system is far too complex for our idiots to even consider attempting to comprehend so we are fairly safe. Over there I belive you can have a gun 'because you want one' something which is a gift and a curse I would guess. And I also though that widening the choke to more than the bore diameter does nothing, as the shot pattern is going to start spreading from the tightest point of last contact. So having metal surround it after this is going to have no effect as the shot will most likely not be in contact with it and continue on its own route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 What Yankee bashing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfa taf Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 it will damage the threads, is unsafe and just stupid in my opinion Well said.!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Just wait until you catch the end of the barrels on the cage on a stand with no chokes in and then you will not be able to fit the chokes due to a dinged tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodit Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) Look at this link to a PDF file at BASC regarding multichoke failures and some testing done to see what can cause failure, you will have to down load the file to read it. I would not use a shotgun without its chokes fitted. Although the report does not cover using the weapon without a choke fitted it is obvious the you are risking damage, possible terminal for the barrel if not you. By the way on which web site did you see this unadvisable idea?? As for America and Americans great place to visit but I wouldnt want to live there and the Yanks are just like most other folks theres thick uns and clever uns and in the middle uns just more of each if you follow my drift http://www.basc.org.uk/en/utilities/docume...A4F4F9CB29C58B2 Edited April 12, 2009 by sodit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 By the way on which web site did you see this unadvisable idea?? http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic....p;t=174843& Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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