cyberbenny32 Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 just wondering what sort of animals apart from the usual rabbits/pheasant and pigeon etc i can kill with a logun s16 mk 2. that is from a reasonable well camoed close distance? i am talking distances of 20-50 meters ish any help would be greatly appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumpersniper Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 the list on the general licence mate, as long as you have reason to kill them, except for foxes, hares and deer obviously. I would do some accuracy and penetration tests at the ranges you want to shoot from. People use bars of soap or clay or something to give an idea of the penetration you will get at different ranges. probably lot of stuff on here and youtube showing you how. SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 By itself he pellet will not kill anything.. And that is a loaded question you ask We have many variables here? What is your skill level? Is this a FAC air rifle? And type of pellet? Obviously, the larger game would require more energy, and bullet with greater mass, but first and foremost is your prowess.. I have hunted with rifles for over 30 years, and i have actually created a mental check list that i go through prior to making that shot.. Besides i am not sure as to what other critters you might be thinking about? I believe most of what is shootable is Vermin? I do not know if this has helped Cheers dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 just wondering what sort of animals apart from the usual rabbits/pheasant and pigeon etc i can kill with a logun s16 mk 2. that is from a reasonable well camoed close distance? i am talking distances of 20-50 meters ish any help would be greatly appreciated people! so be carefull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbenny32 Posted May 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 non-fac, skill level is reasonably good been shooting for about 5 years on and off. all depending on time. i think i will go out tomorrow and do the soap test!! thanks for the advise guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daystate Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 ? would 12ftlb with heavy pellet kill a fox at around 20-30yards??just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 dont even think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daystate Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 ok..ive just tried that bar off soap think at 20yards and then at 40 and the hobby flathead pellet went straigh through both times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 ? would 12ftlb with heavy pellet kill a fox at around 20-30yards??just wondering NO. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daystate Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 what is the max range off killing a rabbit with 12ftlb..with bi-pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 I wouldnt really consider a pheasant airgun quarry. Foxes are a no no unless your have a FAC air rifle and even then i would say you were under gunned. Assuming you have permission to shoot over some land have you considered a shotgun? A rabbit is as big as you want to attempt with an air rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 what is the max range off killing a rabbit with 12ftlb..with bi-pod As far away as you can put a pellet in a 10p sized target every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbenny32 Posted May 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 not really considered a shot gun...... happy with the air rifle atm!! well i shall continue to just blast rabbits etc for the mean while thanks for your help guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daystate Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 what is the max range off killing a rabbit with 12ftlb..with bi-pod ok i was asking because soo many peopel say that 12ftlb can only kill at 20-30 yards but i was going to go shoot some rabbit at around 50 yards wiv a good shoot ??is it abit to far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 ok i was asking because soo many peopel say that 12ftlb can only kill at 20-30 yards but i was going to go shoot some rabbit at around 50 yards wiv a good shoot ??is it abit to far? You need 4 ftlb of energy to kill a rabbit cleanly with a headshot, a 12 ftlb gun will have more than enough to kill a rabbit at 70 yrds but unless you can place the pellet correctly your going to wound them. 25-35 yrds max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 many years ago i was out with a mate shooting and as we were walking back to the car a fox stepped right out in front of us at least 25 yards away if not more-my buddy fired at it with his original 45 in .22 and it dropped stone -dead-not suggesting anyone tries it by any means but i have definately seen it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonrocket Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 I have an FAC 'friend' who I consider to be an out and out nasty killer af anything unlucky to move in the land. He believes he has put down a fox with a logan penetrator with a non FAC rifle - WITH A HEART SHOT!!! I dont believe you should consider any shots to such an animal as a fox with a sub 12 air rifle. Look at it through the cross hairs, practice stalking but never take a shot that will probably wound, cause infection and a slow death. Us non FAC air gunners need to look after ourselves as well as the wildlife. Dont bring scorn and hatred upon us. Rats, rabbits, crows, squirrels and woodies to name the main ones. We have enough pests to look after without these larger lovely animals that require a definate stronger shot. Carbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemicky Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Carbon well said , I'm with you 100% on this subject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Trust me, if you airgunners want to keep having the 12ft guns licenece free, then don't start taking pot shots at foxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbenny32 Posted May 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 i totally agree carbon would not ever shoot a fox anyway....far to much like a dog for my liking!!! just stalk and aim....but dont fire that would always be the case for me! well apart from things like pigeons which i tend to have a general dislike for! and rabbits which taste GOOD! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 ok..ive just tried that bar off soap think at 20yards and then at 40 and the hobby flathead pellet went straigh through both times? Those are a decent enough target pellet for punching paper but really not the sort of thing for the ranges you are talking about. Use a dome/diablo and see your groups improve no end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Thanks for this thread Priceless! It has made my popping in all the more enjoyable. Did you hear about the time my mate Johnny popped off .......... Nah, best not go there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airssassin Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 The toughest quarry that you can shoot with a 12 ft/lb air rifle is a squirrel - they're ard as nails! In my opinion they taste the best too. For those who haven't sampled one - give it a go if you can stomach peeling one. They are sold in top restaurants. Shooting a fox with an air rifle will have 3 effects - the fox will suffer, you have a good chance of being arrested and all us airgunners will be tarred with the same brush and could ultimately lose our hobby. Leave the foxes alone or get a powder burning rifle if you do have to deal with one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Sadly enough, a 12ft/lbs air gun could potentially kill any animal at point blank range, it's just about placing it in that 'perfect spot' Stick to rabbits and pigeons and get a proper gun before you even contemplate killing anything else. As it sounds like you're after some advice on what you can shoot next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George1990 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 airssassin, magpies will take on a squizzer any day Mr. Anonymous shot 2 with a 22lr (so not air rifle) - chest shot (before you say he wasn't shooting in the right place) - knocked feathers out and it flew away! 'ard as nails they is. Don't quite believe it but he was adamant. Anyway, air rifles - not for foxes! I'd stick to corvids, bunnies, squirrels, rats and pigeons. 40 yards max after lots of practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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