samw Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 went out lamping with my work mate last night started out at about 8.30 rabbits was the target tonight got a few before it got dark so took them back to the yard and a cuppa coffee before setting out again headded for one of our farms and as we turned on to the field there sat one big dog fox mate slid the gun out the window and dropped it at 190 yards with his .17 hmr headded of around the fields we did 6 farms last night got finished at 1am this morning with a nice bag of 42 rabbits and one very dead dog fox cheers sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soreshoulder Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 good shot by anyones standards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Why a head shot at 190 yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verminer Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 always nice to see a dead fox but i have to agree with steve- b, 17hmr + 190yds + headshot = Why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjaimz Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Great shot, any lower though and the fox would be missing his jaw I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samw Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 dont know why he he shot it in the head my mate just did lol never know why he dose these things lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 He was extremely lucky not to maim it. ZB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin vs Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 He was extremely lucky not to maim it. ZB The fox was luckier.lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 This is why I asked the question about a head shot. Nothing wrong with a head shot in the right conditions. The fox could have turned at the very last moment, and it's jaw could have been blown apart. I would not take a head shot at distance, not even with my 22-250 or 243. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samw Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 like i say i would not take a shot like that myself even if i did have an fac which i dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 The beauty of a HMR :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 or the beauty of short legs measuring the distance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 or the beauty of short legs measuring the distance :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 like i say i would not take a shot like that myself even if i did have an fac which i dont Being an ex gamekeeper and full time pest controller on over thirty farms shooting all week everyday I thought you would have had an FAC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samyw Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 why take a shot at 190 yards with a 17hmr anyway especially at a fox maybe with 223 or somtheing and a heart shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollieb84 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Its all about how confident you are, i know an old boy that would neck shoot deer at 200 yds. fair play to your friend good shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samw Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Being an ex gamekeeper and full time pest controller on over thirty farms shooting all week everyday I thought you would have had an FAC? yeah thats fine but the man i work with has his fac so i really dont need one myself and fac is not somthing am really into myself been thinking about it lately but am more of a shotgun or air rifle man myself each to there own and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninj Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Can't believe there hasn't been a more damming reply so here it comes.......... I dont know your "mate" but IMHO he needs his **** kicking for attempting such a stupid shot. Wouldn't think twice with a centrefire, but even then I wouldn't dream of a headshot - what's the point, do you eat your foxes or is just for bragging rights down the pub? The room for error is tiny, as proved by where the shot has landed and irrespective of his marksmanship, the round is running out of energy and velocity quickly at that range. I hope it was a poorly estimated distance, but the HMR is not the tool to be shooting foxes with at that range, and to attempt a headshot is pure stupidity. I wonder if you'd have been quite so keen to show us photos of a fox which had had its jaw shot off which you caught up with days later. I have an HMR and as a rimfire, it impresses me regularly but when will people realise there is a time and a place to use one - headshooting foxes at ranges approaching 200yds is not one of them. I didn't intend this reply to be the standard "holier than thou" effort, but by christ I never fail to be gobsmacked by what comes up on here :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Can't believe there hasn't been a more damming reply so here it comes.......... I dont know your "mate" but IMHO he needs his **** kicking for attempting such a stupid shot. Wouldn't think twice with a centrefire, but even then I wouldn't dream of a headshot - what's the point, do you eat your foxes or is just for bragging rights down the pub? The room for error is tiny, as proved by where the shot has landed and irrespective of his marksmanship, the round is running out of energy and velocity quickly at that range. I hope it was a poorly estimated distance, but the HMR is not the tool to be shooting foxes with at that range, and to attempt a headshot is pure stupidity. I wonder if you'd have been quite so keen to show us photos of a fox which had had its jaw shot off which you caught up with days later. I have an HMR and as a rimfire, it impresses me regularly but when will people realise there is a time and a place to use one - headshooting foxes at ranges approaching 200yds is not one of them. I didn't intend this reply to be the standard "holier than thou" effort, but by christ I never fail to be gobsmacked by what comes up on here :blink: I am with him. + some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninj Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) Its all about how confident you are, I know an old boy that would neck shoot deer at 200 yds. fair play to your friend good shot. Come again? You can be as confident as you like but do you have any control over the animal you are shooting?? It only needs to move a fraction of an inch and you've just inflicted horrendous and probably not immediately fatal injuries. Your statement might stand up more (barely in my eyes) if the thread was discussing a shot with a CF - but there is just far too much to go wrong with a tiny projectile like the HMR at those ranges. Edited June 2, 2009 by Ninj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) The beauty of a HMR :blink: more like luck, could have easily left the fox badly injured. Over 100yds on fox with a HMR is foolish and shows little respect in my opinion. Edited June 2, 2009 by topshot_2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 dont know why he he shot it in the head my mate just did lol never know why he dose these things lmao like i say i would not take a shot like that myself even if i did have an fac which i dont The .17 HMR is fast becoming the bain of my opinion these days...... Yes most of us own one but this little calibre is 'in between' calibres. This I feel is becoming a danger to the whole preservation of the sensible target quarry/ range scenario..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groach1234 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) do you eat your foxes or is just for bragging rights down the pub? This is by no means a dig at you but does anyone eat fox? its a genuine question, i assumed they were ditched, buried or burned? George Edited June 2, 2009 by groach1234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninj Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Now that's brought a smile to my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groach1234 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 So you were taking the ****, i thought it may have been a new age thing like eating road kill :blink: George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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