hawkeye Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Got to agree Ive read this thread a couple of times, didn't believe what i was reading the first time.. and i think Henry d has opened his big mouth and been sarcastic once again..what is it with this person is he jealous or something.. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billywizz Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 If you look at Henry **** head post you will see that it says he is a Pigeon watch moderator,,,ha ha ha ,,,is it run by *****...?:D? surely he should be struck off,,,or if people like him run it then matbe members should join another Hunter forum ! aye ,,what do you think,,get rid of him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow mag Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 the mods think they gods. there is another one who buts in alot when not needed. they spoil it for all. hope the shooting is offered again so the boys can have a dayout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 What about it Henry? Will we be getting a response from you on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 What about it Henry? Will we be getting a response from you on this? No? It would be nice to hear your side of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 I will be very much surprised if he does reply .....!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 What about it Henry? Will we be getting a response from you on this? Its like the pigeon shooting at the moment,Its all gone very quiet,lol l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 (edited) I will be very much surprised if he does reply .....!!! Well maybe the site admin should reply on his behalf. Conduct unbecoming of a moderator in my opinion. Edited June 7, 2009 by DaveK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neels Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Not sure I get this.... A commercial pest controller offers shooting - with no statement as to the specifics of the deal Henry_d highlights the fact that there could be a commercial driver or motivation to the action/offer. When queried by the OP he mentions that from a "personal perspective" whenever he was involved with these he got remunerated OP then cancels the opportunity All hell breaks loose I have made up my own mind as to who appears the most unreasonable in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Not sure I get this.... A commercial pest controller offers shooting - with no statement as to the specifics of the deal Henry_d highlights the fact that there could be a commercial driver or motivation to the action/offer. When queried by the OP he mentions that from a "personal perspective" whenever he was involved with these he got remunerated OP then cancels the opportunity All hell breaks loose I have made up my own mind as to who appears the most unreasonable in this thread Well Henry saw fit to comment initially, and pass comment on spelling and grammar. The fact he now chooses to remain silent speaks volumes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie76 Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Not sure I get this.... A commercial pest controller offers shooting - with no statement as to the specifics of the deal Henry_d highlights the fact that there could be a commercial driver or motivation to the action/offer. When queried by the OP he mentions that from a "personal perspective" whenever he was involved with these he got remunerated OP then cancels the opportunity All hell breaks loose I have made up my own mind as to who appears the most unreasonable in this thread the blokes offering crow shooting, early start and go home when you want, to the people like me with limited or no permission, that's a great offer. who cares even if he's being paid for it, a days crow shooting and i assume it also would include pigeon is a fantastic offer. then henry personally attacks the blokes spelling and grammar. why was that called for??? looks like its just you and henry on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted June 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 well i manged to take EASY BULLY with me today. i will let him tell yee the rest when he comes on.atb noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neels Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 ritchie76 So is the issue at hand the comment on spelling and grammar, or the fact that some have lost out on shooting, or just the tone of the engagement? Again, and using the magic words "from my personal perspective" I would prefer not to be involved in a commercial activity, as I don't know where the law as it pertains to me, e.g. health and safety, employment, acting as an agent, etc. lies in this regards. The same goes for my insurance - I don't know if my insurance will cover me if I undertake activities that can be seen as acting within a commercial environment whilst I am actually insured as a sportsman. I am sure I can find out, but for me it is just not worth the effort (therefore I don't ask to go on shoots of this nature, and I appreciate when it is highlighted). You are, of course, perfectly entitled to your own opinion and can act in any manner that works for you. " looks like its just you and henry on this" I carry no one's flag in this regard, but I do think that some of the comments from fairly new members to PW probably do not contribute much to the discussion at hand, and some of the vehemence from others doesn't help either Cheers Neels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbald Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Well done Noel for the offer , I personally couldn,t care less if you were being paid (which I very much doubt) and would have gladly taken you up on the offer if it had been nearer. Shame somebody acting as a mod has to stick his oar in and spoil it when the job of a mod is to prevent the kind of post he made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 all seems to go back to the thread thats been deleted about bignoel shooting foxs with an airgun Make your own mind up i have Most replys are from people that need land to shoot over i don't , nor did i agree to shooting caged foxs with an airgun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 well i manged to take EASY BULLY with me today. i will let him tell yee the rest when he comes on.atb noel glad you got out hope it was a good day................for me being at work all day was wonderful (NOT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted June 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 here we go again commercial shooting health & safety insurance .what **** you talk .this is private permission please dont jump to conclusions ,no one gets paid on this permission if you only knew how much it cost's me to keep this permission in £££££ . as a pesti and yes i offerd my service's free of charge to get the shoot .atb noel as for the fox shooting in caged traps it is legal with a hp air rifle close quarters. it is illegal to shoot and injure any animal with a air rifle .hd was wrong this is why he is like thorn in my side doesnt like to be wrong well he was and thats the end off it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 If all the lads screaming on here had have been out with Noel then found out he had been paid the whole thread would read a lot different, with more than a few asking the mods why is was not made clear what Noels job is. as for grammar and spelling, dont know what that is about. tickles me how many can make it when the offer is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Pest controller requires people for Crow and Jackdaw shooting a pestcontroller can only use 1 gun at a time unless you have another method enlighten me as you always try to . hope grammer and spelling is up to your standard Just from a personal perspective, whenever I have been asked to help a pest controller/keeper, the minimum I have been given is the cartridges and most times I have been paid as he has been paid also. Personally a ladder trap etc. has worked well for me. Don`t know where you are going with the grammer(sic) and spelling though Thats the posts henry_d made just in case anyone needs to read them again. The reference in the second post to spelling and grammer, was in response to big noel's comment in the previous post. Don't forget as well as being Moderators, all of the Moderators are members of this Forum and 99% of their posts are as members. henry_d even makes the point, "Just from a personal perspective...." When they are posting as a Moderator, it is usually very obvious. If bignoel wants to withdraw his offer of shooting, thats disappointing, but I don't see that henry_d's comments should have caused that to happen. Perhaps he may wish to exclude henry_d from the offer, but thats about it. As for all the cries for apologies etc., lets get real. If we demanded that every member posting something that some others disagreed with, apologised, it would never end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neels Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 here we go again commercial shooting health & safety insurance .what **** you talk .this is private permission please dont jump to conclusions ,no one gets paid on this permission if you only knew how much it cost's me to keep this permission in £££££ . as a pesti and yes i offerd my service's free of charge to get the shoot .atb noel Please read my posting carefully - I said that I don't know what is involved, therefore I would not like to consider such opportunities. Others, however, are free to do as they wish Any information that helps me form an opinion is helpful, and if the thread didn't disintegrate the way it did we might have had the opportunity to get to the truth without slinging insults and comments around. I have been civil throughout the thread. I would have thought that that would have set the tone of this discussion. Sadly, it appears I was mistaken, so I have said my final piece on this thread Regards Neels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted June 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 H D can come out anytime he likes for a crow shoot as the offer stated if anybody fancied a day on crows . and maybe he can judge me when he has met me. offers there Hd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Hi, I`m back from down south !! 1 - Don`t see where the spelling and grammar was mentioned in my posts, can anyone enlighten ?? 2 - Why be petty and withdraw the shooting, you said it was due to the "bitching" ?? 3 - Why do you think I appear to be vindictive towards you ?? 4 - Richie76, have a look through the threads find the people I have taken woodpigeon shooting and those who haven`t shot cf rifles and have now done that through myself, have a look at the net making/smoking/pheasant prep threads etc. that have helped people......then judge me. Also show me where I pulled noel on his spelling ! 5 - Surprise Hawkeye !! 6 - Fullbore see answer 1 and show me ! 7 - Long way for crows that I can get every day of the week thanks For those who don`t know/can`t be bothered to look back through the posts, noel has in the past also shot foxes at 67yds/m(IIRC), had run ins with the police, taken out young lads who shoot pheasants roosting at night as well as the shooting of foxes with airrifles and as such I felt had to query whether he was doing a pest job, which it seems to be as he does state that he kept the permission by giving free pest control ! Now if I were to be cynical I would say the withdrawal of the offer is either to do with his perception of a vendetta and a way to have a go at me or that he has been sussed, as it surely can`t be that he has thrown teddy out of the pram over such a small thing ? Finally, he left the forum saying he wouldn`t be back and here he is again, I leave you guys to make your minds up about this sad and sorry tale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 1 - Don`t see where the spelling and grammar was mentioned in my posts, can anyone enlighten ?? 2 - 6 - Fullbore see answer 1 and show me ! Just from a personal perspective, whenever I have been asked to help a pest controller/keeper, the minimum I have been given is the cartridges and most times I have been paid as he has been paid also. Personally a ladder trap etc. has worked well for me. Don`t know where you are going with the grammer(sic) and spelling though There you go Henry, apparently the others you speak about aren't the only ones who can't be bothered to look through past posts, and that was in this very thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 There you go Henry, apparently the others you speak about aren't the only ones who can't be bothered to look through past posts, and that was in this very thread If you had read the post prior to that one Here then you would have seen he mentioned it first ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 If you had read the post prior to that one Here then you would have seen he mentioned it first ! That wasn't the point Henry you said " Don`t see where the spelling and grammar was mentioned in my posts, can anyone enlighten ??" and Fullbore see answer 1 and show me ! So I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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