Chard Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 as there is rarely a Raptor around to do the job. According to Bob the Bolt, the sky is black with circling raptors, waiting to descend on his Speckled Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Are Racing /Homing Pigeons, or whatever you care to call these vermin, are they protected? On a few of the quiet days I have had out shooting, some nice men come along with big wicker baskets and let loads of them out in a layby next to my shoot. They fly around for 10 minutes or so, then promptly land on the crop, thus coming under my jurisdiction, that of pest control. Anyone know the legalities here, as there is rarely a Raptor around to do the job. I did ask Jeeves, but he could not help. I shall not disclose the farmers advice. get someone to parade around with one of these bad boys http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Eagle that will scare em away in due course. And if anyone asks, just say that you're taking it for a walk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 SONGBIRD PETITION "Due to gross mismanagement by the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB) we have seen a catastrophic decline in our native British song bird populations in the last three decades," With respect Lenwadebob thats utter b******t Predation by raptors is a small part of the reason, Loss of habitat similarly Magpies and Grey squirrels predate more songbirds ( in the nest and at egg stage than all our raptors put together ) But the real reason is indescriminate shooting in Europe on their Migration routes, and hedgerow trapping which is still rife in some areas. Still want to take your Spanish Holiday??? FM. BTO, RSPB, & WWF Member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Magpies, squirrels, cats and Johnny Foreigner eh? When I am Emperor of the World they will all be on the general license Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk1058 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Are you serious, this 'Society' has not got the interests of songbirds at heart at all - just pigeons. Sonbirds and raptors have evolved and survived in relative harmony for millions of years without man's interference. If the reduction in songbirds was due to raptors, then songbirds would have gone a very long time ago. There is no doubt that raptor numbers are now well below the numbers that existed even relatively recently due directly to man's interference. Without that intereference (killing, farming methods, destruction of habitat) there would be, as there were in the past, plenty of songbirds, plenty of raptors and plenty of pigeons. Lift the protection and the raptors would all be wiped out again..... for what? Man's own very unimportant purposes. It's a shame you can't use your real issue as the front for your society instead of having to hide it behind something that people might actually be interested in and feel important enough. It's also a shame that you haven't got the intelligence to put an argument together that isn't full of holes big enough to drive a bus through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Are you serious, this 'Society' has not got the interests of songbirds at heart at all - just pigeons. Sonbirds and raptors have evolved and survived in relative harmony for millions of years without man's interference. If the reduction in songbirds was due to raptors, then songbirds would have gone a very long time ago. There is no doubt that raptor numbers are now well below the numbers that existed even relatively recently due directly to man's interference. Without that intereference (killing, farming methods, destruction of habitat) there would be, as there were in the past, plenty of songbirds, plenty of raptors and plenty of pigeons. Lift the protection and the raptors would all be wiped out again..... for what? Man's own very unimportant purposes. It's a shame you can't use your real issue as the front for your society instead of having to hide it behind something that people might actually be interested in and feel important enough. It's also a shame that you haven't got the intelligence to put an argument together that isn't full of holes big enough to drive a bus through. I don't disagree, but that's a bit heavy for a first post. We've hardly been introduced Welcome to PW though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) Dont get what your saying, nice bump :good: Oh and welcome Edited August 19, 2009 by EdwardtheloneShooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I don't disagree, but that's a bit heavy for a first post. We've hardly been introduced Welcome to PW though The original poster made this thread their first and only post and then disappeared back to their pigeon racing/fanciers Forum, so i think mk1058 is entitled to make his harsh comment as a first post, I also agree with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 would like to see proof of just how many racing pigeons are supposed to be taken by raptors.he complains about perrigrins moving into towns.not got anything to do with the plagues of ferral pigeons has it.they were here long before us,let them alone. No where near to the amount that get there neck wrung by these conservationist pigeon fanciers. I've got a few mates that's into pigeon racing, & have being there when they come in....any that don't enter the loft are on that list, as are the stragglers that come in late. Not forgetting the rest that will be culled to clean the loft out now & again. Peregrines my ****, BJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankmansimon Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Oh no if the songbirds die what will we eat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George1990 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Mismanagement of land I think you mean. In all my life I have never seen a sparrowhawk. Yes, there are a few kestrels and buzzards about, but these are not to blame. The explosion in the corvid population is the main problem, along with poor land management. Of course it is essential to sustain songbirds, but killing a few raptors will do ****** all. Didn't even look at your petition... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagsy Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 What's wrong with pigeons? I love 'em yum yum yum yum yum yum yum yum yum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covlocks Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone got a recipe for Magpie Pie?? Cos the more I put to sleep, the more that keep appearing. Its getting expensive on cartridges and i'm fed up of digging holes to shove them in. Now if I can find a market for a nice tasty Maggie Pie or Sausage............ Now what was that about Sparrowhawks and the like - dont I remember an egg collector a while ago that was looking for support from here - he got told to **** off - so lady - Ditto......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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