hiho Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 good shooting :( Just ignore the silly people there just jealous---- Canada geese = Vermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 the lads pest controling just like when people shoot pigeons canadas are classed as verming would you be saying the same if someone had shot a bag of hundred woodys probs not the more you shoot the better when its for crop protection well done 243 win :( I was just about to say the same myself.......but i know if 300 geese went over my head, i would be happy shooting just 1. But i do understand the damage these can cause to any ground, at least you are going to have some very good meals this season, although you may get fed up with goose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryantidgwell Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 cracking day mate well done ! got to get my self a day shooting a goose or some duck thats one thing i have never done :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 good shooting :( Just ignore the silly people there just jealous---- Canada geese = Vermin No-ones jealous- There will would be hard put to many before me who are so these called 'vermin controllers' who have shot more geese than I have in my lifetime- whether it be on a stubble field,inland marsh or the foreshore....... So you reckon canada geese are vermin? Barnacle and Eyptians are more of a pest than they are- It would be far better if they were on the general licence than canada's. But then again that is only my point of view-There are greater numbers of canada's further north than down south, they are few in numbers around here these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryantidgwell Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 there are hundreds of canadas around here . a local boating lake pond got that over run with them and i mean they must have been 1000 on a small pond that the council had them culled in april to keep the numbers down and now they are back with avengance , alot of people wont walk near the pond no more due to all the **** and fear of children been attacked , i am still waiting for some to fly over my permission :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 To many canadas round here at the moment :( each to there own i say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
243win Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 At this time of year on the stuble fields its a chance to reduce the geese numbers. In february this year just after the snow cleared the farmer had to flag this particular field and spend a lot of his valuable time moving the geese on as they were doing lots of damage to his crop :( . Of course we were not protecting the stuble, just taking advantage of the situation to enjoy a very memorable couple of hours out on a glorious morning hunting a very noble and sporting quarry. The farmer was very pleased with the result and told me to keep at them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseaDavid Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 At the end of the day we are all out there to have fun and if you only want to shoot a certain amount then that is fine but dont moan about people who like to shoot more. There are so many farmers out there who will tell you how much damage these birds can do to their land and this is why most farmers hate them so much and want them taken out. Like I said earlier they have eaten so much on some of our fields before that we have had to re-drill them in the spring so We shall take out as many as we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick54dog Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 well done mate, you had a great 1st day. i m out on saturday for my 1st crack at the geese this year......i watch hundreds following a flight path most mornings.....so if everthing goes to plan......... atb mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 seems starlight hasnt a clue what he is talking about, Canadians are vermin you go ahead and shoot as many as you can, better than them ending up being rimfired as they often are due to the damage they cause from a wildfowler Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiho Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 and to be fair 12 is not that big of a bag iv seen us go out with 4 or 5 people and shoot 3 times as many as that and i bet people have shot alot more canadas might not be a pest on some peoples land but they are on others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I think you'll find Starlight does know what he's on about. Though l think that .243's reasons/arguement has changed from the start of the post to the end. Whilst personally l think that if you are asked by a farmer to get 'rid' of them, 9 times out of 10 you should (otherwise someone else will for you in your stead). Canada's are usually refered to as Pests, and as such licences are easily obtainable outside season to cull them where they are a menace. Shooting as many as .243 has in a morning in my opinion is a job well done in the situation he is in, on the foreshore/marshes we all abide by the clubs rules for good reason (which we all know)... T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Like any responsable shooter i feel bag limits are right and justified, but im struggling to see why anyone is worried about how many canadas are shot! They are a non indigenous species and in my view have no place in the British countryside along with the ring necked parakeet, and the grey tree rat to name a few. They are pretty much the only species of goose that frequents my local parks and they make such a mess with their droppings that ive stopped taking my little girl there So to all those who love shooting canadas...... keep up the good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 (edited) seems starlight hasnt a clue what he is talking about, Canadians are vermin you go ahead and shoot as many as you can, better than them ending up being rimfired as they often are due to the damage they cause from a wildfowler Doc [/quote Don't know what I am talking about? Prehaps you should ask the 1000+++ wildfowlers I represent on the East of England Joint council? Its people like you I enjoy standing in front of before a 100 others and blowing clean out of the water............... Edited September 5, 2009 by starlight32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
243win Posted September 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 (edited) Starlight, I for one am not questioning your credentials as an authority on wildfowling as i dont know you. If i had posted that six of us were out on opening morning and each had shot two geese each i wonder if you would have made your initial comments? I would suggest not. As you can see from the vast majority of replies in this thread your comments are very much in the minority and although we may all have to bow to your superior knowledge on the subject you are entitled to your opinion just like everyone else is. Perhaps you would like to explain to the two farmers who i shoot vermin and geese for that twelve is far too excessive? I await your constructive reply with interest, mainly to see if you are about to blow us all out of the water . Edited September 6, 2009 by 243win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseaDavid Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Well said mate If one of the guns on my farm turned up and said he was only going to take 2 out because that is his limit he would not be getting any shooting because one of the other guns would take his place. We have got way too many canadas on our farm and on quite a few of the farms in our area and they cause alot of damage each year to crops, so I say that twelve is definatly not excessive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 (edited) Starlight, I for one am not questioning your credentials as an authority on wildfowling as i dont know you. If i had posted that six of us were out on opening morning and each had shot two geese each i wonder if you would have made your initial comments? I would suggest not. As you can see from the vast majority of replies in this thread your comments are very much in the minority and although we may all have to bow to your superior knowledge on the subject you are entitled to your opinion just like everyone else is. Perhaps you would like to explain to the two farmers who i shoot vermin and geese for that twelve is far too excessive? I await your constructive reply with interest, mainly to see if you are about to blow us all out of the water . 243 win, that post was not directed at yourself as all throughout this thread you have conducted your side and opinion in a sensible manner. However, when a said person spoils the positive discussion by flinging the dirt making comments which are unfounded and cannot be substanciated then I shall make no secret of substanciating what I do and know. Unfortunately for many of you, you have no knowledge of what goes on 'Behind the scenes' which even enables you to raise your gun at wildfowl in season or out..... I shall explain, But not on a public forum, It would be a little too much for some to comprehend....... Edited September 6, 2009 by starlight32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Methinks starlight is just a little full of his own importance as indicated he appears to be in the minority in his views, and a very aggressive chap. The shame is he waded in with his comments in the first place. I am afraid he is wrong in this issue being debated, why he has to tell us how clever he is I am not sure, ''enjoy blowing people out of the water in front of hundreds of people,'' oh dear, not someone I would want representing me, Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseaDavid Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Methinks starlight is just a little full of his own importance as indicated he appears to be in the minority in his views, and a very aggressive chap.The shame is he waded in with his comments in the first place. I am afraid he is wrong in this issue being debated, why he has to tell us how clever he is I am not sure, ''enjoy blowing people out of the water in front of hundreds of people,'' oh dear, not someone I would want representing me, Doc As I have said, a full and broad explanation of the issue and my reasoning for remark and opinion I have already given to 243win. An explanation to which to which he has fully accepted and was unaware of. As for aggressive then I fear you are surely mistaken, many know me off here and it is very rare I ever have to raise to an argument, most of my postings are of a jovial nature. However, in light of my original statement I made a mistake of not explaining my stance,which as I have is already said is unfortunately not for the public domain. But believe me there is a far greater picture with the placing of canada's on the general licence, Which may appear sooner than you think. Here is another school of thought.....For all you out there shooting canada's as pest as they are on the general licence, I have yet to see any of you doing it outside the game season.Now why is that I wonder? So now canadas are a pest (quite rightly so as they are on the general licence) then why are none of you shooting them all year round...I'll tell you why, many don't have the bottle to because they are still unsure whether they are doing right or wrong. I stand before many people on occasion who have the rudeness to heckle in a similar manner to the way that you did, and I took offence-And as I said I have to deal with people who make such remarks on occasion who do have knowledge of the big picture. Thus was my retort to your original remark. Unfortunately, if you were a true wildfowler then you would never treat any goose as pest-No matter what is dictated by edict. Just out of curiosity do you own a 'B' gun?? If you do I would give you half an hour of time with you in person and you would soon see what I am about... maybe you would then see my school of thought. Regards Just out of curiosity do you shoot an Hatsan Escort?? Edited September 8, 2009 by starlight32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Getting away from the original postings (I have already said that I did not think 6 geese was excessive, but it would be my upper limit), my main issue is with the Canada goose being on the General License. As a wildfowler the Canada is a prized quarry and most certainly not vermin, and I know most other wildfowlers think the same. Numbers have been declining in the east of England for many years now, they are much reduced in East Yorkshire, North Norfolk and down into the broads. I have heard this attributed to both displacement by Greylag geese and to excessive shooting, I think it maybe a combination of the two. In my opinion there was no need label this goose a pest species able to be shot all year round under the GL, if it was causing a problem then the previous system of applying for an out of season license was sufficient. I also question the amount of crop damage they do, its all grass in one shape or another, it grows from the bottom up, it can withstand browsing, infact some say it benefits from it. No doubt in some cases there is significant crop damage but is it really that widespread, I doubt it. As for being a foreign import, well it sits alongside many other of our quarry species in that regard, to name a few..brown hare, rabbit, pheasant, redleg partridge, fallow deer, muntjac deer, sika deer and chinese water deer. Maybe all of these should be eliminated because of their foreign credentials aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 .....For all you out there shooting canada's as pest as they are on the general licence, I have yet to see any of you doing it outside the game season I do and will carry on doing it as long as they are a pest to the farms i shoot on Just don't feel the need to post every trip out i make And yes i make sure all is eaten one way or another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 and I know most other wildflowers think the same. Numbers have been declining in the east of England for many years now, The lads round here will not shoot them as there to heavy to carry off the marsh and will wait for the pinks instead Hence there are thousands of the ******* about and not to good eating neither Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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