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OK, as we started with a horsey pic, here's another one for you.

I'm after £600 or nearest offer. I can take it with me to the CLA game fair if anyone is interested.

Customs don't charge you for items less than £20 as it's not worth the paperwork for them. Often you can get much more valuable items and they still won't bother. Custom charges are usually about 5% depending on what category the item falls into, plus 17 1/2% VAT on the whole lot. You can look it up on the customs website. You pay this to the Post Office when you collect the item. I think the Post Office also add a handling charge.

On a live pigeon gun, the face on the action usually has "lugs" at either side. Also the flat section of the stock at the sides behind the action, before the chequering starts is usually hollowed out a bit. As mentioned in a previous post, Live Pigeon Shooting was where competitions were held where live pigeons were released from traps for people to shoot. (This is why clay pigeon throwers are referred to as "traps") It resulted in shooters wanting bigger and bigger loads, so gunmakers started producing guns specially for this ("live pigeon guns") with really heavy barrels. (The shooting of live quarry in this way ceased about 100 years ago and clay "pigeons" took over. Consequently, live pigeon guns are not very common now. During the Victorian period, glass balls were sometimes launched as targets.)

Cogswell and Harrison 12 bore boxlock ejector. 30" steel barrels (recently reblacked). Nice stock. Recently fully refurbished, date about 1907.

The advantage of Flexicoys over rubber decoys is that Flexicoys are made from PVC which won't perish or lose its shape unlike the rubber type.

Pieman - I don't suppose you can get wax cylinders by "Coldplay" or others for your Edison Home Phonograph, mind.

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The sloe is the fruit of the blackthorn bush - Prunus spinosa, a member of the rose family and closely related to the plum The bullace (or wild plum) - Prunus domestica, closely resembles the damson in appearance, but the fruit is much smaller and the tree grows more as a bush. Bullace gin is more "fruity" flavoured than sloe gin. Bullace bushes can be distinguished fron sloe bushes in that the fruit and leaves are larger, and the bush has no thorns. Bullaces and sloes can be mixed together when making liquers. A Kilner jar is a glass jar used for bottling fruit. They have a glass lid and a metal sealing ring. There is a rubber seal between the lid and the jar. Here's the rest of my recipe now the site is working again: Well, you need gin, sloes, sugar, and if you like, almonds. The best thing to make sloe gin in is Kilner jars, but if you haven't got any, then gin bottles will do. Get your sloes when they are starting to go slightly soft, wash, dry and ***** them with a fork. (make sure you remove the stalks or they make it bitter) Fill the Kilner jar to about 1 inch below the top with them, add 2 oz sugar and fill to the top with gin. Add a few pricked almonds if desired. Some people add cinnamon too. Shake for the next couple of days until all the sugar is dissolved. Put in a cool dark cupboard and forget about it for a few months. Take the gin out and put it into a green gin bottle. Keep dark and cool for a few months. Carefully decant off the gin leaving the sediment in the bottom. Add more sugar if desired. Tips: Add sugar bit by bit, and leave the final sweetening to the end. You can always add more but once it is in you can't take it out. The sloes are soaked in alcohol, so deparate your gin when you are doing punch and throw them into it when you have finished with them. Keep the gin in green bottles in the dark otherwise the gin will go brown and lose its fla

Just something to think on. By doing so, what would we be actually advertising? My interpretation would be of a chat forum where like minded people can get advice and learn. What is Pigeonwatch's purpose? To promote pigeon shooting as a sport? Has William got a mission statement? I expect that PW has just evolved from a basic idea, and that's great, but it's maybe time to look at where we want to go to and what we want to be. Maybe simply being a good forum is the answer? I know it takes a lot of admin, but perhaps PW can grow and become something more. I may be willing to do some web-work if required.

Light turns it brown and taints it. It doesn't take much light to spoil. Sloe gin is a liqueur not a wine - no fermentation takes place when you make it, so you don't have the problems normally associated with winemaking (i.e. going vinegarey, oxidising etc) Start looking for Kilner jars at this summers car boot sales!!

If it's in good nick, you got a bargain! The price is due to production costs of running smaller batches than 12 bore carts. Get hitting those pigeons with it!!

Don't add the majority of the sugar until the end when it has had time to mature.

Oh!! At your age, I was already an expert at such things!!

All those crows - bit of a waste of cartridges aint it? They use of recorded calls is forbidden in the UK.

Sloe gin is better if kept at least 2 years after bottling. Keep in green bottles in a cool dark place to prevent it spoiling. You can make a very good drink using Damsons instead of sloes. If you make bullace gin (similar fruit to sloes) you usually need more sugar.

Well, you need gin, sloes, sugar, and if you like, almonds. The best thing to make sloe gin in is Kilner jars, but if you haven't got any, then gin bottles will do. Get your sloes when they are starting to go slightly soft, wash, dry and ***** them with a fork. (make sure you remove the stalks or they make it bitter)

I usually take the air rifle with me in the hide, but the most I have ever shot with it were a handful which came close enough so I didn't have to use the shotgun. Over 100, even if they were sitting in trees sounds a bit of a "tall order"

Took out a rat at the opposite end of the yard today with my S200. I'm impressed!

My mate's got the S410 and I've got the S200. Have to confess that as far as ballistics go, I don't think there's a great deal of difference. Of course the S410 is more solid and robust, but I like it to be light. Wasted about a dozen rats and a couple of collared doves this afternoon, including some tricky shots on moving rats at a distance with the S200. Finished off with the garden gun.

The type of shooting you describe is called "flighting" here and is great fun if you get a good spot. Decoying behind a hide is when you get the birds to come to the decoys onto a crop which they feed on. Most shotgun sales are driven by the clay market which means mainly o/u and autos. Nearly all my mates still shoot sbs for live quarry. F/F choke! sounds strange. Are you sure? We are non-toxic too for waterfowl. I use 30g or 32g 6 or 7 shot (pigeon load)

Anyone for a chat? In now!

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I use a drop of farmyard disinfectant (iodine based - Iodel FD) in some water to finish. It's amazing if you throw some down on the floor of a smelly stable - it instantly neutralises the smell.