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Hi Old Farrier No i havent - but i think the thought is they die quite rapidly - My concern is - with steel will this shot not just kill the bird - which is terrible - but actually have time to manifest itself in muscles etc and then into the food chain - The honest answer is - i dont know

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Thanks Conor I dont have conviction of that fact at all - Im asking you guys that are guiding us - and guiding us down this route To me it matters not if the birds die after 2 days or 2 months - neither are acceptable - 30 days seems a very short period - would you not agree ? Looking at tungsten with increased absorption and it knowns effects of causing cancer / strokes - i am just not sure the alternatives are much better

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Thanks Conor This is my thoughts - how do we not know we are simply jumping from frying pan to fire - or indeed inferno ? 80 odd percent of tungsten polymer was ingested from the gizzard if im reading that right ? And 60 odd percent of steel simply remains in the gizzard ? - How full can this get before birds starve to death ?

Thank you - But as i read this i see steel retains most of its weight in its gizzard - and the bird does not eat as much - surely after further ingestion this will be fatal too ?

Conor Morning - has any research being done on steel shot and how that is broken down by birds ?

I meant set an account up on there mate - like you have on here

Did you talk to ATN ? Not seen you post on Stalking Directory local lad ?

Know how you feel Billy Take care

Have at look at ATNs latest offering 5K or a C50

Yes its so stupid isnt it

Im still at them mate but just forget to get them on here

Class as ever On another note my shooting companion - mentor - that we lost at Christmas had many Labs over the years - All called Sue ! Bless

If sat baiting they are simply awesome - put the gun in and just leave it pointing at the bait ready I have used mine for a bit of walking - open one of the legs - and put it on the shoulder - but its not really what they are intended for They also lay flat - which sometimes can be very handy I would not be without both my pairs

Simon Not watched yet - need to build up to it So sorry about Jack - i still shed tears for my dogs gone but time and happy memories ease the pain Keep going mate

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Great Our land is passed for 243 but i need to have my 270 "registered" somewhere else - madness really

Just look .... naughty hahahah

Nice - try a bit of melted cheese with it Ditchy ! And toast of course

I would speak with your FEO first I would speak with your FEO first AWESOME JDOG !

Good evening Did these sell ?

Drive like a dream I would say do it

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Thanks Rimfire Its just Peter and ATN have been very good to us as a shoot and have asked if i hear of any feedback both good - but perhaps equally important bad - as it will help them improve things I have the new X Sight 5 - and its bloody brilliant