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Well, there's "He may just be incredibly bitter. " So he's willing to warn people away from the vaccines to the risk of their lives because he has a grudge against Pfizer? There have been numerous contradictions and shortcomings in the statements coming from official sources yet it seems we are expected to accept them without question. Personally I'm willing to consider what anyone has to say and let it stand on it's own merits - gaslighting notwithstanding. Well the response to the response is there: https://home.solari.com/rebuttal-letter-to-european-medicines-agency-ema-from-doctors-for-covid-ethics/

Yeadon is not exactly alone either https://doctors4covidethics.medium.com/urgent-open-letter-from-doctors-and-scientists-to-the-european-medicines-agency-regarding-covid-19-f6e17c311595 Might take a while to character-assassinate all these folks.

Um, read some of my previous posts and you might realise I was being sarcastic ☺️ Conservative Woman is one of my regular visits.

Sorry, Michael Yeadon has already been labelled a vacci-moron around here so publishing anything from him instantly makes conservative woman a conspiracy site in the eyes of the vaccine true believers rationalists around here.

I see there's murmerings of a Brook/Eubanks matchup. That would be worth watching though I fear for Brook's chin now.

Kell Brook suffered a broken eye socket against GGG and the same thing happened in his next fight against Errol Spence Jr. He won his next few fights but was knocked out by what looked like an ordinary jab by Terence Crawford. Looking back at some of his earlier fights - i.e. Carson Jones, he shipped quite a lot of punishment so hardly surprising his punch resistance isn't up to par nowadays. Shame - I always enjoyed watching him.

Hmm, have you considered the fact that pressure/velocity and thus range, are related? Constricting the egress of the airflow generated by a cough or sneeze with a mask will generate a higher pressure around the edges potentially flinging particles further than if a mask was not worn - admittedly not in a forward direction, but possibly also breaking the droplets into smaller units so enhancing the spread of the virus.

"According to granddaughter Daisy, everyone who had attended the party had all received their full vaccines." Somebody help me here... We have a roomful of people, all fully vaccinated so the holy grail of 100% herd immunity achieved in that room, yet still a risk to "millions of of unvaccinated young people". What exactly is this vaccine supposed to be doing for anybody?

I presume you mean me. Interesting you find the subject matter so emotive you need to block someone who expresses a point of view you disagree with. If posting a page from your favourite fact-checking website constitutes calling someone out I can only say you are intellectually lazy. I note that no-one responded to my challenge to point out the errors or logical fallacies on the link I posted concerning the apparent increase in deaths following vaccines.

https://www.labnews.co.uk/article/2030503/coronavirus-is-it-just-a-type-of-flu Virology Both influenza and coronaviruses have a single strand of RNA as their genome, but that is where the genomic similarity ends. The influenza virus genome comprises 7 or 8 segments, while the coronavirus has one long strand. Influenza virus RNA is what is known as ‘negative sense RNA’. This means that its sequence is the mirror image of the correct code for proteins and a complementary strand must be made from it before production of new viruses within a host cell can proceed. In contrast, the coronavirus genome is ‘positive sense’ which means it can act as messenger RNA and code for proteins. So from a virological point of view, coronavirus is definitely not a type of flu. For most the cold is an inconvenience but is it too much of a stretch that for some elderly or immune compromised individuals the common cold weakens the immune system sufficiently to allow other more lethal pathogens to take hold? It would be worth it to protect the most vulnerable among us etc etc (not to mention the profit potential) Yes it would be difficult to develop a vaccine for ~200 variants but despite decades of research a successful vaccine has not been developed for any one of them.

I rest my case, nothing to see here... 🥳

Turn that around, who's political and scientific careers would go up in smoke if it was ever admitted harm was caused to a large number of people by an experimental therapy which had been virtually forced on them by the powers that be? Liability? nah, no-one needs to worry about that.

You've yet to demonstrate you have the mental tools to engage in this conversation. Critique my logic please!

ADE is specific to coronaviruses and a few others - it's one reason we don't have a vaccine for the common cold. I've noticed you tend to just attack the source when presented with concepts that challenge your status-quo. The article was sourced by UK Column from an external blog - I wouldn't expect any site you would consider a "better source" to publish it for fear of being branded "not a credible source of information". Why don't you get together with Oscarsdad and give us critique of the article - I'm genuinely interested in where you think its logic goes wrong.

That's not an argument... Please provide a reasoned critique of the article so we can all develop our critical thinking skills. No need to create a website you can paste your flawed logic here...

That's an interesting question and impossible to answer at this point given the expected outcome of ADE would be very severe covid symptoms resulting in death. The vaccine has so far been targeted at the groups most at risk of this same outcome and it would be virtually impossible to differentiate the ADE from "natural" Covid cases. Even if ADE cases were identified I would not expect to see any information published about them since that would likely be the death knell for the covid vaccine program. There are however statistical analyses of government figures which suggest an increase in the death rate among vaccinated groups. https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/why-there-correlation-between-vaccine-rollout-and-increased-covid–19-mortality If so, ADE might be a factor. However known instances of ADE typically surfaced when the subject was challenged by the virus some time after vaccination and it's questionable whether enough time had elapsed to allow for that in these cases. If there were in fact additional deaths due to the vaccine there was possibly a more direct effect in play than ADE. The real tell would be an atypical emergence of severe covid cases among vaccinated individuals in groups previously considered to be at low risk - especially if the prevalence was significantly higher than among unvaccinated members of the same demographic. Again I would not expect accurate information about this to be publicized through official channels and no doubt other explanations for the spiraling death rate would be put forward instead.

Indeed

Why would there be any symptoms in vaccinated individuals? 😀 But there is precedent for the pathological process https://www.reuters.com/article/us-rsv-shot-idUSTRE4BM4SH20081223

My own wording... The subject of the first sentence is pretty well common knowledge to anyone who has read anything about how the vaccine works. The second is my own speculation about a potential outcome. Very true, but my post was in response to claims that this absolutely could never happen from the vaccine. The relative risk does not become part of the discussion until and unless that point were conceded. I'm not holding my breath 😊 It's a purely academic discussion anyway - it either will or will not happen and our opinions on the matter won't change things either way. That would be great if blood clots were all we had to worry about. I'm far more concerned about Antibody Dependent Immune Enhancement which could make symptoms much worse for vaccinated individuals. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5 Immunization of chickens for Marek's disease would be a perfect scenario from your point of view but this has lead to increasingly more virulent strains of the virus. https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198 The covid vaccines in existence are not claimed to prevent transmission of the virus so potentially fall into the category of "leaky" viruses which is a prerequisite for the above scenario.

The reliability of the official vaccine safety data is a story for another day 🤐 My absolute risk of dying from covid according to qcovid.org is 0.0175% and that presumably assumes I am unaware of and have no access to the emerging prophylactic and early treatment protocols for Covid. If I do take the vaccine it will be several years in the future and because of coercive pressure rather than fear of the virus. But thanks anyway for enrolling in the long-term safety trials - your dedication to the advancement of medical research is appreciated 😇

Given the novel mRNA vaccines have only been in widespread use for a few months the data does not yet exist to support such a claim. Nor is it likely to for several years, if not decades. The most assertive honest statement any scientist could make at this point would be along the lines of "according to prevailing theory we do not expect genetic material from the vaccine to be incorporated into the recipient's DNA" However it is a leap of faith to presume prevailing theory can fully predict the behavior surrounding lab-engineered RNA. For example the vaccine mRNA is engineered to ensure it stays intact within the cells longer than natural RNA - this to increase the production of spike proteins. This could potentially create conditions favorable to molecular processes which could not occur naturally due to the transient lifespan of natural RNA. Biology is no stranger to Black Swan events - the granddaddy of these being inanimate organic compounds assembling themselves into complex living systems. This process has never been observed or reproduced and science is still struggling to characterize it, yet Evolutionary theory absolutely requires that it happened at some point in the past. If we accept it is possible to go from molecules to Mozart by entirely natural processes is it too much of a stretch to entertain the possibility that attempting to repeatedly vaccinate the entire population of the planet with an experimental gene therapy might encounter a few unintended consequences along the way?

Another article by some unqualified loons for you to mull over. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33330870/ (Yes this is a pre-print and not yet peer reviewed) If as they claim evidence has in fact been found that "that SARS-CoV-2 RNAs can be reverse transcribed in human cells by reverse transcriptase (RT) from LINE-1 elements or by HIV-1 RT, and that these DNA sequences can be integrated into the cell genome and subsequently be transcribed" please explain how we can be so sure that the RNA introduced by the vaccine cannot be also be transcribed by the same pathway.

It is possible, at least in theory - I guess we will find out for sure in due course. https://anti-empire.com/will-an-rna-vaccine-permanently-alter-my-dna/

And in a rare moment of Democrat honesty: Calif. Gov. @GavinNewsom: “Let me just be candid with you. I’d be lying to you to say that [Trump] hasn’t been responsive to our needs. He has. And so, as a question, as a sort of an offer of objectivity, I have to acknowledge that publicly." Newsom added: "The fact is, every time that I've called the president, he's quickly gotten on the line. When we asked to get the support for that [USNS] Mercy ship in Southern California, he was able to direct that in real-time. We've got 2,000 of these field medical sites that are up, almost all operational now in the state, because of his support. Those are the facts."

So then there really is no need for vaccine passports and the like since the vaccine refusers really only endanger themselves? But it looks like they are coming anyways...