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THIS... ABOVE.... As usual basic bigging themselves up. To the shooting community and the blokes who just want to go for a walk up with a mate and their dogs this weekend all this semi political posturing is totally irrelevant. Either basic has been infiltrated by wreckers or antis but shooters are being sold down the river. Whatever you write is just nonsense. The way things are going there won't be anyone taking part in sports shooting. Either you are blind, stupid or fifth column.

most of the places that I shoot have asked that only fibre is used. Some because of stock on the fields and some because they just don't want plaswads laying on the fields for years. I'd never seen anything like this case failure ever in years of shooting. I don't imagine that anyone would consider half the case being ripped off or splitting.. . It must be something to do with the type of plastic and its resistance to heat, pressure and stress. load.

He's got a LOT of random stuff. Considering how old these 8 bore cases must be, most of them are in really like as new condition. I fired off a few old 12 bore Eley Grand Prix Indian orange paper cases at the clays and they all went bang and absolutely dusted the clays. a couple of them had the old ICI head stamp. Those old 12G ICI head stamp cases must go back into the 60s at least. The 8 Bore cases had been a roll turnover load and were probably 3,1/2 inch long. In that lot there were 13x8 bore, 15 various pin fire.. 11x28G, 1x20G, 1x16G, 2x14G, 3x12G, and 1x10G. Some old history there. Most of the pinafore were French, Possibly Fortuna head stamp. A couple of Eley bros, A Steven Grant. history from a long forgotten time.

I wonder where these 8 bore cases were shot and how many ducks or geese they accounted for.

This afternoon I went to a friends to shoot a few clays and after he made me a cup of tea. He dragged out a box of old paper cartridges. Some old 8 bore paper cases and an amount of paper pin fire cases. I don't know how old they are but they were in pretty good condition. I don't know anything about how pin fire cartridges were loaded or if they could be reloaded. a few pictures. A good item from many years ago.

This is happening in other gauges also. Last summer I went to to a simulated driven game/clays day. During the lunch break one of the other guns said that he was loosing half of his cartridges.?? I asked if he had a hole in his cartridge bag.😆. But what he meant was that his cases(20) gauge were melting just like these.? I looked at my 28 Gauge cases and the same thing had happened to them. Don't know why but the shots did as they normally would. The cartridges fired as normal and the clays broke just the same. I did post pictures back then.

The raw power of nature. I well remember our "huricane" of 87. The Mrs woke me in the middle of the night around about 5 and said listen to the wind... wind, it was howling. Then a couple of tiles rattled down the roof. The house was literally shaking. The wind had gotten into the ventilation airbricks and then up through the structure and was forcing the room carpets up. Luckily we didn't have hardly any other damage. Later the thing that I remember was the complete silence. The only other time was in covid lock down. No cars, no planes just the wind.. We didn't have electricity for about 3 weeks and no tv or radio coverage. The Internet hadn't happened then. The isolation was strange. By late morning people were trying to get places and I tried to get into work to find how much damage had been done. We couldn't get through to anywhere because of the amount of trees that blocked everywhere. We survived. The other day I watched weather coverage of Helene on Ryan Hall..Yaall. they are a load of geeks BUT they seem to know what they are talking about. They alert people about dangerous tornados and weather. They collect money and distribute it to help people. We don't understand the magnitude and power of storms like Helene because being more north the seas aren't as hot as the gulf to power weather like that. We aren't peppers but we do carry amounts of stuff that we could operate for a long time in the event of a serious weather incident. So much so that the kids have said that in the event of the Zombie invasion, that they are coming here for the food, ammunition and the money.ĺ!!.. it's nice to know that you are wanted. 🥰😁 Ps. You don't want any nice guns over there at give away prices do you, because nearly everyone is offloading there guns at give away prices at auction here. About 5000 a month exported to the states. Edit. Those pictures of the fallen trees are similar to places around here in Kent. In fact some places here were even more of a tangle. Chain saws that hadn't been used for years were out. Many people were injured in the clearing of dangerous trees by inexperience resulting in fallen trees rolling over and crushing the person cutting it.

Gun sales...... even last year I was in a gunshop and there were a couple of blokes in there who asked if the shop would buy in his uncles guns as he was having to give up shooting. The bloke behind the counter said NO.! He said that they had racks of nice s/h guns but nothing was shifting and they had a rack of guns in there that if you put tags on them you wouldn't be able to tell them from brand new. Only a week or so ago a friend was in a nearby gunshop and they had only sold two guns that week.! The only few things that they had sold had been shooting clothing. There are numerous reasons for this which have been covered on here in the past but sadly I fear that things are past the point of no return, when you see 5000 + guns going to give away auction prices and exported AND if anyone looks at the guns for sale list, loads of views but virtually no sale. There aren't even the odd silly two bob offers. It's so sad. A question is what happens to these nice guns that people put on her for a fair price but that price is way way above the market price. Example a side by side which may have had a value of maybe 600 to 800 probably wouldn't generate a value of 150 quid... probably no bid at all!

So what 12 sxs went in the scrap.? Come on upset me.

It's not fair... whatever it is for I aint got one. What model of Weatherman is that.? I have a wave which I bought about 20 years ago and it is not like that in the pictures. The screwdriver blade part isn't a sort of right angle like that one in your pictures. It is a gentle curve to the blade base point where the swivel point rotates. Edit. Now that you've got me looking at my Leatherman I notice that the wire striper appears to be a big V shape at the base of the bottle/can opener. And there isn't a groove at the base of the screwdriver blade either. Second edit. That is definitely different to my wave. My wave is highly polished and all the tool pivots are security Torx. I used to carry it on my belt but when the knife carry law came out and it became illegal to carry it without Reasonable reason I stopped carrying it because of the risk of getting caught with it,,, eg in the shop getting a newspaper or something. A local gunshop used to sell small bullet knives and a customer who had bought one happened to be in a pub where some sort of disturbance took place. Plod was called and everyone in the pub was searched..?? Now the bloke wasn't involved in the frey but they found this little knife in his pocket and he was arrested and charged with being in a public place with an edged weapon.!! Result found guilty and they revoked both his sgc and fac tickets.

But last night... late..l even the commentators said that about 25 hardy spectators had stayed with it to the end. It's being held in some sort of a wheelhouse.

Felt out of place..??,,, Garlic ĺ!!. Thats awful. It's worse than awful. Its 🤢 disgusting.

If our heating was below 20 & 7 I would have to be wandering around in a boiler suit, hat coat gloves and a scarf. Still I suppose that if you shut your heating down to 15 & 5 then it would save you even more money.

Where's the crowds.? It looks like it is being played in a wherehouse somewhere. Top players. About thirty spectators. What's the form.

He's a creep. Just a chancer. if he had gone on get me out of here they'd have savaged him.

Isn't that classed as heating.?

I hadn't thought about how hot or cold it is until I saw this thread. Seeing the temp gauge above I went and looked at ours. It shows 23° C in this room which equates to about 73.4F. We don't have any heating on at all so the heat must be coming from US, mainly her. She is just a human dynamo who radiates heat. Really nice when I come home from night shooting. And the electrical equipment that is on. .. 55" TV, sound bar, 28" Imac computer, router, cctv unit and 22" cctv monitor.

Blimey, do you blokes live on here.? I read the post a few minutes ago and tasked the Mrs if she was cold... seeing as she is sitting next to me in a short sleeve T shirt. Still it's good to know that I can draw on her heat source when I require it. We are ready for ignition as and when because we gave the Rayburn a decoke/declaged and swept the chimney about a fortnight ago. There's a ton of smokeless waiting ready to go, and recently I was offered 9 bags that had to be disposed of due to a house disposal. Depending on when we fire it up, generally sometime in October round to sometime in late March and how hard we run it, we generally burn̈ through about 40...45 bags of the 50. When it runs, it runs ALL of the time and it does the heating and the hot water, so reducing electricity consumtion. The place gets like an engine room at times. Roll on global warming.

I think that it is super to have the land and the ability to build any sort of facility without interference from antis who have different ideas. I belong to an APPROVED RIFLE CLUB. We have to have a minimum of 12 members who shoot regularly..?? The club has to have a constitution, a Committee, public Insurance and be a club member of the Nsra ( national small bore association) the club shoots .22rf on 25 mtr indoor ranges against comparable teams by postal competition. At one time one of the brother in laws worked for a company that made concrete pipes of different sizes and they had a load of seconds that they wanted to get rid of and I had this silly idea of getting a digger and making an underground range using the pipes, which would have a shooting room at one end, an accessible butt at the other end via a manhole type lid with an internal overhead rail to take the targets down the range and back to the firing point. An idea but that's as far as it got. I do also shoot .222 .223, 243 and. 273 over approved farmland. But occasionally you get antis call the police that some maniacs are shooting all over the place and they feel threatened by the noise and the shooting. Plod has to come out to check it out. Total pain in the rudder. You just get set up to do a bit of decoying and the idiots are out there shouting "murderer" or waving flags or using mirrors to flash light at the birds. I'd love to win the euro millions lottery and buy a 1000 acre farm. Edit. I love what you have and what you have made. Its nice to be able to talk about things without it degenerating into some sort of argument.

That is a fantastic situation to have. I suppose that it is just down to the amount of land/people density that there is. Its all down to the perception of guns and their use by individuals. The government's perception of civil inserection. This really goes back to probably the end of the first world war and lots of men coming home toʻ basically nothing. "A world fit for heros." But it wasn't. It's not just this country. The vast majority of the European countries have much stricter gun controls than the UK. In fact when I've been to a lot of countries on holiday, I've asked about gunshops and clay pigeon shooting ranges and in most places there is no concept of anything like this. It certainly isn’t something that is visually apparent. Things really changed here after the massacres at Hungerford and more so Dunblane where the gunman killed so many young kids at a primary school. Years ago it was quite common to see some old bloke going off shooting rabbits with a couple of ferrets in a Box on the back of his pushbike and a shotgun tied to the crossbar and perhaps at the end of the day going in the pub for a drink and propping the gun in the corner of the bar. If you did that now you would probably end up with someone calling the police about it. No one wants to see guns. Perhaps if there were guns freely available the murder rate would be off the clock. You only have to look at the amount of knife crime that there is and the new laws regarding knives. It would be fantastic to have the ability to play with guns and stuff but that's never going to happen here now or in the future?

There is a saying .. That if it can happen, at some stage if all the stars align then it will happen. to not consider this would be irresponsible and could be considered negligent in the event. Lawyers make their living out of this sort of thing.

Nobodyimportant. That's not right. Don't demean yourself. Everyone is important. It would be helpful if you were to add to your profile that you are in MERICA. When I started to read this thread I thought that it was a bit odd that someone had just got a digger and started to doze a track through woodland. Here in the UK things are a lot different. because of the population density you wouldn't just be able to create your own firing range without consulting and complying with all sorts of rules and regulations which might seem to be a pain in the rudder BUT are only put in place to protect the general public. I remember being out night shooting fox on a piece of ground that had long views. We were about five miles away from a Military range and they were night shooting at targets on one of the ranges they're probably using 7.62x51 NATO. What surprised me was the vertical deflection of the tracer rounds from the butts. We couldn't hear the shooting at this distance but the tracer and presumably the non tracer rounds were going a long, long way up and out to sea. I do know of one or two farmers who have a bit of a bank that they use to zero up on but short distance and only used once in a while. IF I were making this sort of range my concern would be of random people being out on the land ( even though they shouldn't be out there) near to where the range is situated or the possibility of rounds going downrange out the back.... Do you have to comply with any safety directions or planning laws out in MURICA.? Edit... IF I were to be making a range I would dig the soil out from the front and make the stop vertical and pile that soil up on top to make it higher. And then place some railway sleepers at the side and face of the butts to hold the soil from being washed down by the rain.

The beans are like a small broad bean. They are grown for animal feed. I think that they are known as tick beans. ( I don't know because I didn't work in farming and the farm where I shot only ever grew them once. We just called them beans,...) some of the beans in the local fields were just starting to push up two leaves and the ones on the surface had just split or some were just showing the tap root. I did pick up a couple to show the neighbour as she was asking about them. I'll take a picture of them and post it later. Edit. She chucked the beans in the bin. Beastly woman. Still it's not really about what sort of beans, it's more about why they didn't turn up next day or not at all. I'd not be happy to have set up the next say for nothing. I've done that before.

Possible, but both days were about the same time...2pm (ish). In the days that have followed, I have driven past the field I have pulled up in the gateway and glass3d the there hasn't been a single bird on the field or flying over

Well what happened.?? The next day the Mrs and I went for a walk over the same fields as we had done. The weather was about the same, it was about the same time of day and again there was no one out on the fields to disturb them and there wasn't a single bird on the fields. There were still quite a lot of beans laying on the surface, so why the complete lack of birds.?? none up in the trees, None flying over the fields. Now I've only ever tried to shoot over beans once before. This is because the farms didn't plant any to shoot over. AND that was very similar. The field was on a pair of good lines and I had decoyed pigeon on basically dirt. In that instance wheat had been there but the whole lot had been disced. I think that I had shot near eighty that day. Now I thought that I might have a good day over the beans but the whole area was devoid of a single bird. I set up and there wasn't anything. I even got to that point where an insect was out front and I raised the gun thinking that it was a bird way out on the horizon. Really odd. Now in this instance the birds knew the beans were there and they soon came back to feed on the field as we walked on and down the road parallel with the field. could it be that the beans had gone bitter or something.