Minky

IF you are going to shoot that much lead apply for more storage capacity. Dont get yourself into a situation like this. Or dont get involved. I don't drive a racing car because I can't afford to. SIMPLE. The othe side is the cost of shooting quantities of cartridges. They aint cheap now.

I fully agree with the above. It is not a requirement to keep records of components bought or rounds reloaded. Two FEOs have said about having a reloading book. ( I did advise them that it was total nonsense because I could write down anything that bore no relation to the true amount loaded or shot. And one particular FEO TOLD me (along with others and even dealers) that reloaded rounds had to be added to the ammunition column. All of this is a result of trying it on and make it up as they went along. The medical certificate is a glowing example of this. No one in our so called shooting organisations bothered to contest any of this. I was told that in Essex FEOs were asking to see primers that had been removed. They say that it is policy..? The feo that told people to add rounds to their certs did get pulled infor a word. He didn't last long. Do not ever ever think that plod is your mate, because he isn't and will attempt to get browny points if they can. Look at the stunts they've attempted over the years. (Mentors).. DSC courses ... bullying people to give up because they don't use their guns enough.

Visually that is pretty much the same that I had issued to me in the ATC. I really enjoyed shooting the rifleout to 600 yards. It shot really well and I liked the light coloured woodwork.

I've got a couple of slabs of Fiocchi 28 gauge cart that I thought were fibre but it looks like they have some sort of plastic driving wad. I don't know if it is degradable or not and under what conditions. At present I'm hand loading full fibre 28s so the factories can hold in stock until I find out or go to clay grounds where they allow plastics.

Billy, steady now. That attitude is back to the dark ages. Just because someone is in a hole of depression it is generally a call for help. IF the guy was walking the streets taking pot shots at people then fair enough drop him but what does it matter how long it takes to talk him out of it and yield. There is no justification for just going out and splogging the bloke. This just leads to more problems like Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes. They just went out and shot the bloke in the head in front of a carriage of passengers. He was a. Electrician. Then there was the bloke who had a chair leg tied to his pushbike crossbar they shot. And the bloke in Hastings who was naked in bed who was shot because they thought that he was armed.?? What with.? A banana.? Think about it. It could be you. So why did have plod had to go out there shooting. Unless he is a danger to others. He may not have had a weapon. He may have laid it down or sadly shot himself but that would have been his choice.

Yeah but how do you see the situation where some bloke rang up and said that he was armed and was going to shoot himself and plod zoomed off out there and ended up shooting him.??? Did they have a negligent discharge OR... did they think,,, well he's going to shoot himself so we'll have a bit of realism target practice or some other random idea. Surely the idea should have been to calm the situation and get the bloke to stand down and get help.

We docked into Hurgada and had an afternoon walk about. It was a S hole of a place and we were harassed to buy stuff pretty mercilessly. You'd have to stay in the hotel compound and facilities or be brave and have the skin of a rhino. Don't know anything about the hotels there. We went out on a glass bottom boat trip and the sea was a mass of jelly fish. Millions of them. No sea swimming there with the sharks.

We've been on two cruises and loved both of them. Initially I thought.. here we go this is going to be a stuck up sort of thing with the captains table and the ball but there were about three restaurants to chose from. OK there was the captains ball but we didn't go to it and it wasn't pressurised to have anything to do with it. The thing that made me chuckle was a long corridor of pictures for people to buy. But by the end of the day most were still there. I wasn't surprised by the prices. I expect that a couple of minutes after the pictures had been taken the captain wouldn’t recognise anyone. The restaurant that we used was a self service one and the food was superb. You could have as much of what you liked as often as you liked and it operated 24/7. One night I couldn't sleep and went for a wander round the ship at about 2am. People were down there and around the decks playing cards, using laptops, pads and phones. And they were still shoveling food out. For the food addicts you would end up 30 stone by the end of the holiday. The trips were great but you didn't have to go or you could do you own thing. Some places like Hurgarda in Egypt on the Red Sea are just industrial ports. There's nothing to see or do there and you wouldn't just wander about in a place like that. You Dock in, get on coaches for trips to places like Cairo or the temple at Karnak and across the Nile to the valley of the Kings, the colosus of Memnon or the temple of Queen Hatshepsut. Back on the ship it was just getting on and off with I'd checks. We had to do mock sinking drills... and it ain't no good saying I ain't doing it. Everyone has to do it and be accounted for at your. Muster station, with your lifejacket ON. IT'S MARITIME LAW. now some ports they used the lifeboats as sea taxis to the port and seeing some of the games launching the boats in daylight with calm seas with the boats upright gave a lot of concern as to how this would work at night in roughseas with a sinking ship and panic left a lot of questions. Generally I enjoyed both of the cruises. You see a different town city every day unless you are at sea. You get sunburnt easily at sea if your not careful. Quite a tiring routine. Trips out most days are expensive and could be a couple of hundred pounds a day depending on where you went. The trip to the valley of the Kings was a fourteen hour day from leaving Hurgarda across the desert with everything thrown in was quite an experience. Once in a lifetime sort of thing and Cairo with the pyramids, sphinx, Cairo. Museum etc etc. Fascinating, I wouldn't mind going back there.... but potential for danger what with Israel and gazza and the Houthys and Iran.

Australia is just too far. I might fall off over the edge. AND I DON'T LIKE SNAKES AND SPIDERS. for the time of year when we are thinking of (may-june) a lot of places in the med are not that warm. it looks like somewhere in the canaries, north africa/ Egypt is the band but I'm not sure about any Arabic or Muslim country with the events going on in Gaza and with the houthy aspect. Normally It would probably be perfectly OK but a bit late when it all goes pear shaped. Currently looking to go back to Tenerife. Far enough south to find the sun and far enough away from Muslim influence. Keep the uk option for when we get older and we have umbrellas

This was the first place that we went to in Turkey. we came over from Rhodes town on a hydrofoil day trip. This included a coach trip around the local countryside and places. This was a bit of a leap of faith for us to somewhere like Turkey with 3 of the girls. I seem to remember that the coach stopped for lunch at a cafe /restaurant in nearby Icmeler. The place was adorned with towels fixed to the roof of English football teams. A simple English breakfast type of lunch. Then we were let loose for an hour or three to wander the streets of Marmaris. A bit of an experience with 4 teenage Blonde girls. I told them to keep in tight and not to wander off going into the clothes shops on their own. We did have to go back and retrieve one of them from a dress shop. When we came to go back to Rhodes the hydrofoil wasn't there but the friendly turks sorted it out a boat to take us over to Rhodes. Quite a nice place. On a different holiday the wife and I docked into Marmaris on a med cruise and did an off road tour of the local mountains etc. A nice place. Very scenic and hospitable.

you're all living in LaLa land. Forget this citizens army nonsense chaps, it's a non starter. There is so much strain on the countries finances that there is no way that any of this is going to happen. Every situation that you can think of in this country at this time is under financial strain. every bit of FAT in all systems has been pared to the bone over many years of cost saving. There is no way that the Government is going to let foreign illegal immigrants do any of this sort of thing. none of them would want to anyway. No government would even consider allowing the civilian populace to be armed again like years ago. All of the drum banging about national service is a non starter as well. Who do you think is going to do or organise any of this,? THERE IS NO ONE TO DO THIS. THERE IS NO SPARE CASH TO DO THIS...... ANY OF IT. 20 years go a plod told me that they couldn't afford the petrol for patrol cars to just tour out round the villages at night time and weekends. If you have a crime to report.. you might get someone to answer the phone. you might get a crime number but it is highly unlikely that anyone will come out to investigate. not an in depth investigation, just a quick look round. At work we had quite a serious break in and theft, thousands. 3 days later a plod turned up for 5 minutes to LOOK and he said that it was only possible because the bloke who had been booked to use the car hadn't turned up for work. He wasn't going to walk down to look.!!

Thanks again for taking the trouble to do that. Somewhere in all of the reloading sheets and handout pamphlets I have collected over the years I have that data. I thought that it looked familiar. Checking through that data, My Green Dot load with a win primer is half a grain less at 14 grains but with Fibre wadding to get the column height right. My load seems to be a very good load both in shooting and effect at the target.

Although obvious that fact never entered my mind. personally I can afford stuff and I like going but Where;? What I find a task and a pain is the OUT of holiday part.... The decision , The planning. The admin, The packing, The organising. Then the getting to Gatwick... Assuming that trains run. The messing about in Gatwick, The waiting around. The transfer, The retrieval of luggage from the coach, The booking in , The settling in, The linking up with the hotel web link to organise/Book meals /sunbeds etc. Then the holiday can begin. I like the holiday part but then on the return you've got the same. Generally I like most of it but It would be nice to stay in this country BUT. There is a similar amount of organising AND There is no guarantee that we may even see the sun through the clouds and rain. I don't see the point of having a holiday here and siting about dressed up like it's mid winter or soaked to the skin and paying more for the privilege than going to Spain, Greece or Turkey and paying a LOT more for the priviledge of holidaying in the UK. At least if it rains out there, it is warm and you soon dry off and aren't shivering cold. Last year we went to Maderia and whilst I had gone into Funchal there was a storm shower. The rain was monsoon but it was warm. I was wearing a pair of shorts, A pair of black sandals and carrying an umbrella. The rain was coming down so hard that It was bouncing up to over my knees. soon the rain was gone, the sun was out and within ten minutes I was completely dry. Roll on global warming.

Thanks very much for that. What is the source of that data,? Hogedon or Allianz etc. I could see the images but the blur was pretty bad. As with the information on the gualandi pages up there I look the data over and match to a load and powder that I might have and then load a few under the loading and see how they shoot and the speed over the chrono. as I wrote above my shoot loads are less than the published loads and they shoot very well with out any problem. it's cheaper on powders and it is less recoil for me so a win win. ps. with the current situation with reloading components its not what you would like to reload with it is what is available and you can get your hands on.

Ha ha ha. Had this bloke been using the bottle.. back when i was I was a kid my father used to bang on about how the hooligans needed a spell of national service and a dose of The Sargent major. Quick and bloody lively. Minor problem here the idea of cannon fodder armed with a pitchfork didn't really cut it and that's why it was knocked on the head. IF you are going to have a force suitable to put up a creditable performance against any force that has fought it's way across Europe and across the English Channel it's got to be trained and armed with the current weapons. Now considering the financial considerations of the country they might be asked to supply there own pitchfork. Dad's army style. I've got a 223 and NO captain Manwarring isn't going to commandeer it.

Thanks for these. I've had a look at the powder/ components and my 7/8 load uses less powder than their listing. My loading is quite a nice load and dusts clays if I put the load on the clay. The load on that list must be quite a cracker with that amount of powder. And IF I were to load a up a few I would be careful to reduce the list loading SLIGHTLY and do a few tests.

Thanks for those pages. Is it possible to re post them again ... in focus. Perhaps as single images because the information is quite blured. OR. Does anyone know where that data can be found online. Thanks

Excellent. I've still got my Suzuki hustler t250r in candy orange out in the garage. I haven't had it out for years and years though. Things had changed. The last time I had it out I took one of the daughters out for a reasonable long treck. But whereas there used to be groups of lads out cruising or parked up outside pubs, there wasn't one pub where there there was a single bike and the motorbikes that we did pass gave no recognition that we were on the road. One of the other daughters was with a bloke who had a superbike but it was like a sort of status symbol. He never cleaned it or worked on it, it went into a main dealer or a valeter. He wasn't what I call a motorcyclist. A sunny day rider at best. He didn't last long with the daughter thank the Lord.

Not right,, OP Nort AGAIN.

and look at you now. A reformed integrated tear away and hooligan. Now old and docile. How would I know.? I bet that you don't ride a bonville now

Steady in the ranks men, It's all just bluster. It was a lot more dangerous back in the days of the troubles. They do integrate eventually just like all of the other immigrants right back from the Saxons to the vikings to William the conqueror and all the odds and ends. We are a multi racial, multi ethic country. get used to it. I'd be more worried about some 13 year old yout paunching me with his mums carving knife when I'm out in Tesco's to prove his manhood and join a gang of other youts hanging out ,COZ THE YOUT OF TODAY GOT NUTTIN TO DO. Think back to the days of mods and rockers or skin heads and greasers. Just remember to keep your powder dry.

The situation with the lenses connections is correct and when I use the Olympus lenses the operation is fully automatic but when I use the convertion ring with in my case an old quality good quality lens 42mm in my case you have to focus the lens manually (by using the focus ring on the lens) and maybe using the apature stop ring. None of this is difficult and when the picture looks sharp and not too light or dark, you press the button. It all comes down to being a cameraman and seeing a picture that gives you pleasure and perhaps is something different. Just take loads of pictures(Japanese tourist style) for every 100 pictures you might get 5 that are good. After a while he'll look back through a million pictures and think why the hell did I take that or who the hell are they. Back in 35mm film days you only to9k a few pictures and hoped. Now you can take lots and just sort and dump.

If pennies are short to get the expensive lenses he could always get a coupler/converter ring which allows a camera body to match up with a different make of lenses. OR lenses which are the same fit type but a different make. I have an Olympus micro 4:3rds and about 3 Olympus lenses to go with it but I got a converter ring to use the old pentax 42mm screw thread lenses. There are loads/thousands of old lenses of top quality makes from the days of 35mm film cameras. I have what would be thought of as cheap rubbish lenses Eg a Russian helios lens but it takes fantastic images of butterflies from a distance where they aren't spooked off. The only consideration is that there is a difference as to the focus point in an old SLR camera and a digital camera like my micro 4/3rd. The converter ring has to be the correct thickness distance so that the focus point is on the correct plane. Just a starting point. Have you got deep pockets. EDIT. We got a nice digital Sony for one of the grand daughters and i believe that the lenses that she has fit straight onto my Olympus and vise versa EDIT. what sort of photography interests him.?

Which type of lenses is he looking for.? Wide-angle, telephoto.?

If you go on a cruise make sure you take sea sickness tablets with you ( Sturgeron ) I've never been air sick or sea sick but it ain't nice. We were sunbathing on the top deck and suddenly she's was UP.. hand to mouth and away. Luckily our cabin was just below and she just managed to get to the toilet in time. SHE SPENT ALL DAY IN THECABIN. Every cabin had a do not disturb sign hanging from the door. We had no tablets available but a bloke in the cabin across the way kindly gave her some. There was a queue at the ships doctor who was charging a fiver a tablet.! Next day we docked into Agios Nichos , east crete. We walked up a road from the harbour to a roundabout where we found a chemist. Where we bought a box of Sturgeron for a couple of Euro. The tablets were far stronger than we can get here. A lot of chemist abroad sell all sorts of medicines straight over the outer that you would need a doctors prescription for here in the UK.