skid512 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Could someone tell me what's the point of a farmer letting people come on his land to shoot pigeons when he's got a gas gun going off all day, everyday on a field of rape?? There are pigeons around, lots of them too, which i guess is why he has the gun going, but they are not coming on his rape hence no pigeons to shoot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Could someone tell me what's the point of a farmer letting people come on his land to shoot pigeons when he's got a gas gun going off all day, everyday on a field of rape?? There are pigeons around, lots of them too, which i guess is why he has the gun going, but they are not coming on his rape hence no pigeons to shoot... because the gas gun works 7 days a week during daylight! just turn it off and they will come in (or so i have found) - they also work well if there are rabbits close by - they get used to the bangs and it makes shooting them with the shotgun much easier (they dont go to ground when it goes off) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseaDavid Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 As already said the gas gun is going 7 days a week to try and keep the pigeons off the rape and most farmers will let you turn them off while you are shooting. But sometimes it is handy to leave them going to help keep birds on the move eventhough it is garenteed to go off when you are trying to shoot a bird The trouble we have with putting gas guns on our land is the birds get used to them quite fast, We move our gun every day and adjust how many shots it fires so the birds dont get used to it as fast + we use rockets and rook scarers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris t Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Could someone tell me what's the point of a farmer letting people come on his land to shoot pigeons when he's got a gas gun going off all day, everyday on a field of rape?? I agree with the other posts. If people came everyday shooting, I'd probably not need them. But after a bit the birds will fly up into a tree when they go off, then wait about 10mins and go straight back on the crop. At this stage a shotgun is the only thing that'll get rid of them. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) I have mixed feelings on this subject I can see why they they are used as for the 24 7 nature of the guns . Which no shooter can offer but Imo a regular gun once a week on a field without gas guns bangers etc. Will get a higher kill and reduces number at the end of the day as archie would say gas guns dont kill pigeons we do. All that happens is the problem moves,a little secrect for the farmer boys if you want to get pigeons of your farm trace them back to roost and ever night for a week go there just before last light and let of a few shots . The birds will be push out of your area very quickly as no quite roost no pigeons. Regards OTH Edited December 14, 2009 by Over the hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseaDavid Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Shooting the wood late night does not get rid of the birds full stop, all they do is move to another wood and just fly across the farmers land to get to thew field. Once pigeons find a field they will normally stick to it and pigeons do have their favourite fields. Like on Mersea island wedont really have any great roosting woods and you ask alot of people and they will tell you that alot of birds head off the island across the sea towards peldon or even Brightlingsea. It may work on some farms but not on others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) Remember the farmer's interested in protecting his crop, not give you or me good shooting, unless selling shooting rights is his business of course. I'm sure if you ask the farmer he won't mind you switching the gas gun off in the field you are shooting, just don't forget to switch it back on when you're done for the day. This time of year, having gas guns in other fields around you can help keep the birds moving. Edited December 14, 2009 by Cosd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 In my experience gas guns are pretty much a total waste of time and money for a farmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 some of the best shooting i had this year has been when the gas gun has been going - the birds get used to it and recover quickly from the sound of a shotgun going off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby dazzler Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 i think the pigeons get used to them i have a couple of rape fields with bangers on but the they take no notice they are still striping the field bare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 some of the best shooting i had this year has been when the gas gun has been going - the birds get used to it and recover quickly from the sound of a shotgun going off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 a little secrect for the farmer boys if you want to get pigeons of your farm trace them back to roost and ever night for a week go there just before last light and let of a few shots .The birds will be push out of your area very quickly as no quite roost no pigeons. Regards OTH Yeah, that's a great idea, I'm sure my local keeper will be more than happy to let me into those roosting woods of his tomorrow night to crack off a few boxes..!! Seriously though, gas guns are a great help in keeping the birds on the move. The only time I've found that they'll ignore them is when they are very, very hungry. A word of advice, if a gas gun is popping away on a field, don't think you can simply turn it off and they'll come flooding in, 'cos they won't. Set up elsewhere, you'll have much better sport. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Yeah, that's a great idea, I'm sure my local keeper will be more than happy to let me into those roosting woods of his tomorrow night to crack off a few boxes..!! Thats why I put the the farmer boys bit in rather than you shooting boys. As round this neck of the woods the farmer eg the bloke who owns the woods rather than a keeper who thinks he owns the woods. Can put string bangers in pigeon roosting woods not the pheasant pens to push birds off to another farmers rape or crop. Regards OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 The issue is more likely to be larger flock sizes and one shot and they all fly off for a bit. I have an agreement to turn the gas off whilst I am shooting if it suits me, sometimes it is quite helpful on a large field with the gasgun the other end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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