Bingo Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Chaps, Tomorrow I buy myself a great xmas present , the tough choice is between an Air arms S410 or a Theoben mark 2. My thoughts at present are - the s410 looks great, is highly accurate but maybe a bit delicate whereas the mark 2 will be a real workhouse and fits in with hunting trips with dogs and being knocked about a bit. I actually prefer the s410 but think I will go for the mark 2 because of its potential longevity (after this outlay no more guns for me for a while). Do you airgunners agree/ disagree with this assessment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster321c Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Air arms all the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo2005 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 fiddle sticks ,, Rapids all the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christy Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 The 410s are pretty but I would say the Rapid is the best bet. My mate breaks everything but has two rapids and swears by them. If he can't break em they must be tough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillStone Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 air arms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantellissheffield Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 rapid mate i have daystate and a air arms s400 as a spare but would have rapid over the s410 anyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 If I had to choose other than a HW100 it would be an AA S410. The Theoben is rather too agricultural for my liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Air Arms all the way-you gotta spend a whole heap of money to get ahead of this maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookbones Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 theoben have very lazy hands ...i would still have an .20 fac eliminator or tx but im a fool for it,airarms is the better choice/better quality/better use of ur hard earned coinage. the idiot in me <my dominant side> would go 4 theoben ...if u get 1 of the 5 good ones the shift a year great but if not forget customer care ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berthaboo Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 i started with a air arms S410 and went to theoben when you go to the shop tomorrow do one thing and it will make you mind up hit the barrel on both guns the theoben will not move yet the air arms should move as the barrel is only held in place by a figure of 8 bracket now if you plan to use the rifle for vermin ect you think one hit on the barrel when you are out and your day is over till you re-zero it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 (edited) If I had to choose other than a HW100 it would be an AA S410. The Theoben is rather too agricultural for my liking. Too agricultural??? thats sweet coming from someone whom owns a German Cricket bat- Rapid is the way forward top hunting tool with reliability No offence by the way Les ^_^ Edited December 29, 2009 by Lez325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobyb525 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 i started with a air arms S410 and went to theoben when you go to the shop tomorrow do one thing and it will make you mind up hit the barrel on both guns the theoben will not move yet the air arms should move as the barrel is only held in place by a figure of 8 bracket now if you plan to use the rifle for vermin ect you think one hit on the barrel when you are out and your day is over till you re-zero it Is that not because the barrels are free floating? My s510 always holds zero and so did my s400, Never had anything go wrong with them at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay222 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 both are good quality rifles and you wont be dissapointed in either just see which one fits you best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Too agricultural??? thats sweet coming from someone whom owns a German Cricket bat- Rapid is the way forward top hunting tool with reliability ^_^ No offence by the way Les HW100:- Strong AND smoooooooth. Like an Audi Seriously, I tried a Gaystate Mk.4, an AA S410 & S510, a Theoben Mk. 2 and then bought the Weihrauch. The Theoben was built like a Rusian car, the Gaystate was too complicated, the S510 too flimsy, and the S410 too common (sniff!). I know that Theoben is reliable as most pest controllers I know swear by them (although the little screw under the stock might have something to do with their choice ), but it went off like a Apollo rocket, and I reckon you could have got a fag packet, not just a fag paper between the metal work. Durst sprung technik all the way for me mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanjipete Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 air arms all the way ,its amazing what you can do with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 i started with a air arms S410 and went to theoben when you go to the shop tomorrow do one thing and it will make you mind up hit the barrel on both guns the theoben will not move yet the air arms should move as the barrel is only held in place by a figure of 8 bracket now if you plan to use the rifle for vermin ect you think one hit on the barrel when you are out and your day is over till you re-zero it You dont need to re-zero it, just loosen off the small allen screw at the bottom of the figure of 8 bracket, and the barrel will spring straight back, then just re-tighten it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berthaboo Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 You dont need to re-zero it, just loosen off the small allen screw at the bottom of the figure of 8 bracket, and the barrel will spring straight back, then just re-tighten it so your saying you would be happy that the barrel is in the same place it started and you would not check your zero well so but i have more respect for the things i shoot than to risk wounding something because i could not be bothered to check my zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo2005 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Too agricultural??? thats sweet coming from someone whom owns a German Cricket bat- Rapid is the way forward top hunting tool with reliability :yp: No offence by the way :blink: Les :yp: i new you pipe up...what the ?/??agricultural Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 S410 gets my vote. Theoben are a nice gun but I had the s410 and didn't think it could be beaten, that is until my mate had his dads weirauch HW100t out. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 s410 :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 MFR all day long :blink: As it happens i have one surplus at the mo and 30 mins down the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasram gus Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 THEOBEN everyday of week especially the .20 range in my opinion 177 theobens are PANTS!!!!GO FOR THE S TYPE IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Rapid-for more shots per charge!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christy Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Just buy an Airwolf, second hand if needs. Problem solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 so your saying you would be happy that the barrel is in the same place it started and you would not check your zero well so but i have more respect for the things i shoot than to risk wounding something because i could not be bothered to check my zero You must be the only one who didn't understand my post then So just for you.... I meant, if you were to knock your barrel, dont try and re zero your gun, loosen off the clamp, let the barrel return to its natural position, re-tighten the clamp, then obviously any shooter would check zero Hope thats cleared things up for you mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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