tungsten Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 When reloading, what expanding .223 bullet (and weight) do you prefer for foxing? And just to make it interesting, what powder (and grains) do you use?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Hi, 55gr v-max over 27.5gr of re-loader 15. This is a brute and really has too much residual energy for my needs. So now am trying 40gr nosler bt over 22.1gr of h4198. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULT Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 50 gr v-max 25 grains n133 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 (edited) 55grn Sierra Spitzer running with 26grn of Varget, Lapua Brass, CCI SR 400 Edited March 9, 2010 by garyb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyCM Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 55g Vmax with 24.6 varget (mid range according to Hornady) through a 1:9 twist cheers AndyCM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 (edited) 55grn vmax over 26.2grn of vit 140. Sweet as. Edited March 9, 2010 by inthedark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 50 gr v-max 25 grains n133 My choice exactly. Never had a fox run yet - they collapse in a heap without a twitch, with an extremely large exit hole where the bullet has 'blown up'. I've tried all sorts from Berger 50g hollowpoint to Hornady SX, and 50g V Max is a brilliant bullet head Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyblanco Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 No experience of it yet as I am just getting started but I am trying 40gr Vmax over 23-24gr vit n130 in lapua brass, the rifle is a 1in9 twist but it liked the factory 40gr and I already had 100 bullets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 I can see a trend here always a good sign 55g Vmax cci primers 27 grains of varget, awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Hi,55gr v-max over 27.5gr of re-loader 15. This is a brute and really has too much residual energy for my needs. So now am trying 40gr nosler bt over 22.1gr of h4198. Cheers This is quite a big change, and I'd be really interested to know how it goes, if you fancy posting the results? I'm sure others would too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 This is quite a big change, and I'd be really interested to know how it goes, if you fancy posting the results? I'm sure others would too. Hi, Of course I will. Let me explain. At night my max range is less than 250yds, usually 150 to 200. We do shoot a fair number of foxes in daylight particularly in the summer but I'm 65 with less than perfect eyes so I limit myself to 300yds to avoid wounding on the grounds that there's always tomorrow. The 55gr at 300 is still carrying getting on for (slight exaggeration) the muzzle energy of a hornet - I let my mate who shoots hornet poop off my last few rounds - frightened him to death! I am a fan of v-max but I must say that the Nosler is a beaut and am grouping well inside 1" at 100. With a 175yd zero, it's flat out to a tad under 200 with a drop of 7"n at 300 and still with sufficient poke to do the job. I've come to the conclusion that you really don't need all this energy hurtling around the countryside: Enough is enough if it does the job. I'm all loaded and zeroed so bring on the foxes! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 im using vmax and there isnt alot of damage off them to be fair. the bullet dont exit that much i have found. but the foxes insides are like soup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 50 vmax, blitzking or Nosler over 27.5gr H4895. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Hi, Of course I will. Let me explain. At night my max range is less than 250yds, usually 150 to 200. We do shoot a fair number of foxes in daylight particularly in the summer but I'm 65 with less than perfect eyes so I limit myself to 300yds to avoid wounding on the grounds that there's always tomorrow. The 55gr at 300 is still carrying getting on for (slight exaggeration) the muzzle energy of a hornet - I let my mate who shoots hornet poop off my last few rounds - frightened him to death! I am a fan of v-max but I must say that the Nosler is a beaut and am grouping well inside 1" at 100. With a 175yd zero, it's flat out to a tad under 200 with a drop of 7"n at 300 and still with sufficient poke to do the job. I've come to the conclusion that you really don't need all this energy hurtling around the countryside: Enough is enough if it does the job. I'm all loaded and zeroed so bring on the foxes! Cheers Thanks. I tried some 36's once and found they pretty much died at 250, but they were barnes'. Are you able to chrono the 40's with the light powder charge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 50 vmax, blitzking or Nosler over 27.5gr H4895. If that's the recipe for what I think it is, then I can confirm these are quite effective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Not quite, I substituted H4895 for N130, as my CZ doesn't like N130 in terms of pressure, most odd but there you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 50 vmax, blitzking or Nosler over 27.5gr H4895. I use H4895 under a 55gr Blitzking and struggle to get 26 grn in a lapua match case , that must be one compressed load ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Thanks. I tried some 36's once and found they pretty much died at 250, but they were barnes'. Are you able to chrono the 40's with the light powder charge? Hello, mate, Re your "light powder". Yes it does weigh less but it's a different powder. Lower weight doesn't always mean a light-weight performance as I'm sure you know. No, I don't have a chrono which I admit would be handy. I have to work the other way around, ie, from down range backwards while staying within the load safety parameters. This does have its advantages as a decent bullet at 3000fps is much better than one with the BC of a house brick at 4000fps. Will let you know how I get on. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Nice one. I'm not a high speed fan either even though mine do tram on a bit, the rifle just likes it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 The H4895 load is lightly compressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 This is quite a big change, and I'd be really interested to know how it goes, if you fancy posting the results? I'm sure others would too. Hello, mate, Sorry for delay, nothing but problems: Wind, rain and ground sopping; cows still indoors it's been that bad. To top it all, I decided to remove the moderator. Error! Went out a few nights ago when it was damp, shot at a sitter and missed, I think, haven't a clue, couldn't see a thing - can a shock-wave turn damp air into moisture? Anyway put mod. back on and went to re-zero and whoops, flyers! Couldn't understand it as I felt they were good shots. Had to re-load some more, and bingo! Hair line crack in Lee press fulcrum link which was opening up under load. This must have played havoc with the load consistancy. Got it sorted and went back out. Problem now is at 100yds I was putting down 2 shots and then adjusting toward the zero and couldn't see the second shot even through the spotting scope. Same hole, can live with that! Out to 200yds the bullet is performing as the tables indicated so the forcast 3500ft/sec must be close. Two foxes so far (farmer's wife has just released a new batch of several hundred free range layers so have to keep on top of it). One at 160 and the other at a tad under 200 yds, both dropped dead to shot. To sum up, for me, the 40gr Nosler BT at 3500 out to 300 yds with no excessive residual energy is fast, flat and fatal. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 (edited) Does anyone use nosler ballistic tipped bullets? Edited April 11, 2010 by SSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 I have done, they work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 They see to have a higher BC than most others thats why I asked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 They see to have a higher BC than most others thats why I asked Yep, you've got it in one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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