al4x Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 the power ranger look alikes were out round us in force at the weekend, we have a road with increasing numbers of speed calming measures just because they keep falling off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 (edited) I refuse to believe that bikers are the "purveyors of road safety" they always claim to be... Perhaps someone can tell me why dangerous overtakes, cutting in and out of traffic, speeds not in keeping with the time, location or road conditions are done as a safety measure, or somehow related to the avoidance of other road users ? Think Bike - Think C... Just don't make me late for work please when you come off Edited April 12, 2010 by garyb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 303 miles on the bandit clock this weekend up to the Forest of Ae, bonny area , lots and lots of twistys. from Auntie tip it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
454697819 Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Got me thinking about mine.. she was a beaut.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Think Bike - Think C... thats a cracker of a road safety slogan, I've been passed by a guy I clay shoot with and he fully admitted he came past at 170 on a B road, and its always someone elses fault when a car doesn't spot them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
454697819 Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 I refuse to believe that bikers are the "purveyors of road safety" they always claim to be... Perhaps someone can tell me why dangerous overtakes, cutting in and out of traffic, speeds not in keeping with the time, location or road conditions are done as a safety measure, or somehow related to the avoidance of other road users ? Think Bike - Think C... Just don't make me late for work please when you come off Bit of a broad brush stroke there, I have genuinely been held up by more car accidents in my life than Bike accidents.. yes there are the nutters, seen plenty, however there are lots and lots and lots of very safe riders out there, shame they never get any praise.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 (edited) thats a cracker of a road safety slogan, I've been passed by a guy I clay shoot with and he fully admitted he came past at 170 on a B road, and its always someone elses fault when a car doesn't spot them What get me Alex, is most of them are only part time bikers - most drive to and from work in a car like you and I. Yet, I can bet they wouldn't dream of performing the same sort of stunts in their cars! Edited April 12, 2010 by garyb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
454697819 Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 What get me Alex, is most of them are only part time bikers - most drive to and from work in a car like you and I. Yet, I can bet they wouldn't dream of performing the same sort of stunts in their cars! I agree completely, I have gone though all stages of riding.. full time.. part time and now non time.. I despite my age having gone up I bet I was a slightly better rider when i rode all year around but was younger... ahhh them were the days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 (edited) Dug the bike out for the first proper run yesterday and definatly felt a bit rusty...me and my friends spent alot of time on the bikes in 06 07 and 08 and it definatly shows that I didn't in 09! :blink: Just gotta put the hours in though! Edited April 12, 2010 by gixer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 (edited) Some of the comments really sums up why never going to be world peace Anti bikers are very much evident on this forum. But its ok for your to be anti bikers but when a anti shooter hunter etc some of you are up in arms about they dont understand the whys and what fors of hunting etc. All I can say for all the anti bikers just because somebody rides a motorbike does not make them a C%% like one comment surgests just like how some shooters behave does not make us all C%%% . Kind Regards OTH Edited April 12, 2010 by Over the hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 The only thing I feel when a bike screams past on the inside doing a tonne-fifty is jealousy. You lucky B*******s :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 The willy-waving has started :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagsy Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Serious question/observation..... Travelling to and from Lincolnshire yesterday I couldn't avoid the odd pothole without risking a dodgy manoeuvre in the car, particularly on the smaller roads with lorries heading towards me in the opposite direction :blink: How the hell do bikes manage when hitting these craters which seem to jump out unannounced? Pothole Britain - the roads are bloody lethal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollysp2 Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Some of the comments really sums up why never going to be world peace Anti bikers are very much evident on this forum. But its ok for your to be anti bikers but when a anti shooter hunter etc some of you are up in arms about they dont understand the whys and what fors of hunting etc. All I can say for all the anti bikers just because somebody rides a motorbike does not make them a C%% like one comment surgests just like how some shooters behave does not make us all C%%% . Kind Regards OTH You tend to find a biker IS safer on the road as you are a bit more observant and alert when your life depends on it and you are travelling a bit faster than average... in comparison most cars are just boring.... The actions you speak of maybe seem dangerous but an overtake on a bike is totaly different to a car, firstly you are about a foot higher up so can see alot more and secondly you can accelerate to 60 in about 2.9 secs...it makes a big difference... Cutting in and out of traffic is done by car drivers everyday so I suppose they're all ***** too eh? And don't label us all as .... Engage brain before typing! :blink: Gixer Defo agree there boy's i would say when i use to ride my bike until last year (had to sell to fund business ) you have to be so switched on for the Muppet's on there phones, messing with radios, women putting lip stick on or even just talking to somebody else in the car and generally not paying any attention to me coming down the road with my lights on, the amount of times i had to swerve and nearly came off ( Touch some wood quick) was unbelievable. And you will find that most bikers are just like me and you normal people so don't call us c****!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilvy Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 You tend to find a biker IS safer on the road as you are a bit more observant and alert when your life depends on it and you are travelling a bit faster than average... in comparison most cars are just boring.... The actions you speak of maybe seem dangerous but an overtake on a bike is totaly different to a car, firstly you are about a foot higher up so can see alot more and secondly you can accelerate to 60 in about 2.9 secs...it makes a big difference... Cutting in and out of traffic is done by car drivers everyday so I suppose they're all ***** too eh? And don't label us all as .... Engage brain before typing! :blink: Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Potholes, deisel, petrol. oil, gravel,dogends,mud, pheasants are all lethel to bikers, but it just makes you ride more defensivley. In a car these things are just a pain, on a bike they might mean you are off into a drystonewall , tree or thrown under an approaching lorry. So don't knock till you have experianced it. Inspite of the obvious down side, I'd rather be on the bike than driving my fridge. from Auntie. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 You tend to find a biker IS safer on the road as you are a bit more observant and alert when your life depends on it and you are travelling a bit faster than average... in comparison most cars are just boring.... The actions you speak of maybe seem dangerous but an overtake on a bike is totaly different to a car, firstly you are about a foot higher up so can see alot more and secondly you can accelerate to 60 in about 2.9 secs...it makes a big difference... Cutting in and out of traffic is done by car drivers everyday so I suppose they're all ***** too eh? And don't label us all as c*nts.... Engage brain before typing! :blink: Gixer Right, Firstly how the **** can you say a biker is safer on the road and then in the same sentance state that you are travelling faster than average? Cars may be boring but they are safer and inherently driven in a manner that is not considered to be stupid. Just because a bike can accerelerate fast does not make you invincible, it makes you act like a ****. Yes the car drivers who cut in and out of traffic are all *****, as are the bikers. I would say the same to car drivers/bikers etc who overtake on the inside. Yet you will see 100% of bikers do it. Please take your last piece of advice yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I am not sure that I would be allowed a motorbike. How small exactly does your winkle have to be ? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
454697819 Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 The willy-waving has started :blink: What I love is that thats the first time I have seen that phrase coined on this site.. when the site is about BIG GUNS, yet its used about bikes.. that tickled me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Right, Firstly how the **** can you say a biker is safer on the road and then in the same sentance state that you are travelling faster than average? Cars may be boring but they are safer and inherently driven in a manner that is not considered to be stupid. Just because a bike can accerelerate fast does not make you invincible, it makes you act like a ****. Yes the car drivers who cut in and out of traffic are all *****, as are the bikers. I would say the same to car drivers/bikers etc who overtake on the inside. Yet you will see 100% of bikers do it. Please take your last piece of advice yourself What a load of tripe MC! faster than average can mean that most cars are doing 50 in a 60 wheras a bike will be at 60.. fast acceleration does not make you invincible but it means passing a car is alot safer as the time you are on the wrong side of the road is shortened.. :blink: Saying 100% of bikes "overtake on the inside" is a bit over the top, and if you read the highway code you will see that it is perfectly legal to pass on the left if the right hand lane traffic is slow moving...the "cutting in" you mention is most likely filtering...which again is legal on a motorcycle. again, revert to my original advice.... Regards, Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 a biker won't be at 60 he'll be way over it, if bikers obeyed the limits car drivers would have more time to see them and more time to react. Certainly round me excessive speed seems to be a factor in most bike accidents, you surely won't say you can go out for a fun ride without going a fair way over the limit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) a biker won't be at 60 he'll be way over it, if bikers obeyed the limits car drivers would have more time to see them and more time to react. Certainly round me excessive speed seems to be a factor in most bike accidents, you surely won't say you can go out for a fun ride without going a fair way over the limit? Actually you can....most national speed limit roads can be good fun if trying to maintain that speed... if you want to go ridiculus speeds go to the isle of man, it's about the only place to do it safely without some half asleep, make-up applying, geriatric on the phone person pulling out infront of you.... of course bikes will break the speed limit but just as cars do, and you can be sure there are more problems with 17-18 Y.O "cruisers" in thier souped up cars than there are with bikes... Gixer Edited April 13, 2010 by gixer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 What a load of tripe MC! faster than average can mean that most cars are doing 50 in a 60 wheras a bike will be at 60.. fast acceleration does not make you invincible but it means passing a car is alot safer as the time you are on the wrong side of the road is shortened.. :blink: Saying 100% of bikes "overtake on the inside" is a bit over the top, and if you read the highway code you will see that it is perfectly legal to pass on the left if the right hand lane traffic is slow moving...the "cutting in" you mention is most likely filtering...which again is legal on a motorcycle. again, revert to my original advice.... Regards, Gixer You need to learn to read, The highway code states you can pass on the left if traffic in the right hand lane is moving slower as in if they are turning right. Not when the raffic is already doing 80MPH on the A12. Filtering is normally done with courtesy and usually with the car behind allowing the passing vehicle in and is legal whatever you are driving. Cutting in is usually a last minute thing with no indication or warning it is going to happen and is usually performed by outright ********* in all kinds of vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldypurple Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 i travel quite often to Norwich from Thetford down the A11 on my motorbike, i can say quite honestly that i do break the speed limit most people do. i say i do about 75-85 on that strecth. And im always getting over taken or undertaken by cars. So car driver are just as guilty as bike riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 You need to learn to read, The highway code states you can pass on the left if traffic in the right hand lane is moving slower as in if they are turning right. Not when the raffic is already doing 80MPH on the A12. Filtering is normally done with courtesy and usually with the car behind allowing the passing vehicle in and is legal whatever you are driving. Cutting in is usually a last minute thing with no indication or warning it is going to happen and is usually performed by outright ********* in all kinds of vehicles. My reading is fine MC - "as in turning right" is not the only case of traffic moving slowly...you mentioned passing on the left but without context... I agree cutting in is wrong if done inconsideratly - but when you get some idiot who bangs on his/her brakes at even the glimpse of another motorist says it's cutting in - it's not cutting in.....I for one make sure there is a safe gap before pulling in to a space as it's in my best interests to not risk being bowled over by a 1 1/2 ton vehicle..... My original point was that you become more alert and observant when on a bike as a) your life depends on it a bit more than in a car and :blink: your field of view is alot better... Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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