Basic scope question

[Lez325]

My .222 has just come back from Screw cutting and a Wildcat Predator 8 mod fitted- now the scope I have on this rifle is a Lisenfeld 6x42- nice clear German optics

 

My question is which way to turn the turrets to get up and down and left to right-

 

As this scope has no idication on the turrets and I have no other scope to compare it too- and for the life of me I cannot recall which turret and which direction does what- and trying to zero at 100 yards Im exhausted walking up and down the range and constanty moving the turrets the wrong way

 

Just spent 2 hrs trying to re-zero the scope to no avail- just having a mental blockage........................ HELP Maybe its my age lol

 

 

 

Les :o

Edited May 13, 2010 by Lez325

[Vipa]

My .222 has just come back from Screw cutting and a Wildcat Predator 8 mod fitted- now the scope I have on this rifle is a Lisenfeld 6x42- nice clear German optics

 

My question is which way to turn the turrets to get up and down and left to right-

 

As this scope has no idication on the turrets and I have no other scope to compare it too- and for the life of me I cannot recall which turret and which diorection does what- and trying to zero at 100 yards Im exhausted waliking up and down the range and constanty moving the turrets the wrong way

 

Just spent 2 hrs trying to re-zero the scope to no avail- just having a mental blockage........................ HELP

 

 

 

Les

 

Les.... I can send you my Leupold Zero Point bore sighter to use. just take off the mod, put it on the end of the barrel (magnetic) get it in the right spot and then zero through your scope as normal, you will be able to see your cross hairs moving against the scale so at the same time as getting it somewhere near, you will be able to see what effect turning the turrets in each direction has?

 

Let me know, can get it in post today, send it back when you're done... :o

 

Paul

Edited May 13, 2010 by Vipa

[Lez325]

I have a bore sighter thanks for the offer

 

Surely all scope are the same in respect of the turret mechanisms-

 

just need to know what direction is left right and what direction is up and down

 

I know the top turret is Elevation and the side turret is windage??:lol:?:o????:yay:

 

my heads messed up now been out in the sun for 3 hrs lol and as said walking the 200 yards each time I place a shot has worn me down big time

 

 

Les

Edited May 13, 2010 by Lez325

[al4x]

try it at 40 yards just to get the idea

[kyska]

Lez,

 

Up is anti-clockwise and left is clockwise (right is to click the turret towards you when its mounted)

 

Kyska

[Lez325]

try it at 40 yards just to get the idea

 

 

done that and got myself all muddled up- at home now and 222 is locked away- amazing that no one knows this and how often do we zero and re-zero scopes??

 

I'll have to see my mate and have a look at his leuopld see whats what

 

Les

[SSS]

On my scope (hawke 3-9x50) windage is clockwise for left and elevation is clockwise for down.

Hope it helps

[Lez325]

Lez,

 

Up is anti-clockwise and left is clockwise (right is to click the turret towards you when its mounted)

 

Kyska

 

 

What? ok top turret Anti clock wise = UP

 

Side turret Clockwise = Left YES?

 

Les

[Vipa]

Well if it's anything like my Schmidt, you turn it the way you want it to go.... (which I wuld suggest will be the same as yours as it wouldn't be logical to do it any other way!)

 

So, windage, turn the side turrett clockwise to move the point of impact to the right and anti-clockwise to move poi left. For elevation turning the top turrett clockwise will raise the poi and anticlockwise will lower it.

 

Paul

 

edited due to factor 10 brain ****

 

From the S&B people...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hunting scopes

Remove the turret caps. The elevation dial will be marked with either a "U" or "H" for up and a "D" or "T" for down. The windage dial is marked with an "L" for left and an "R" for right. Turn the dial in the direction you want to move your shot. For example, to move your shot down and to the right, turn the elevation dial clockwise in the direction of "D" or "T." Then move the windage dial clockwise toward the "R."

 

Precision Hunter scopes

The elevation adjustment is designed for quick corrections in the field. To raise the point of impact, turn the dial clockwise to a higher number. To lower point of impact, turn the dial counterclockwise to a lower number. Should you need to go lower than the dial will allow, loosen the slotted cap on top until you can raise the elevation ring and reposition it to a higher number. Push down on the ring to seat it on the turret and tighten the slotted cap. Once the elevation has been adjusted, repeat the above instructions to reposition the elevation ring to allow a range of adjustment relative to the distance to which you have sighted in. To adjust the windage, follow the instructions detailed in "Hunting scopes" above.

 

Police Marksman scopes

PM II scopes are factory adjusted to be mounted using a foward canted base with a @20 MOA cant. This gives the user the maximum amount of adjustment range for distances to 1000 yards. If you are mounting a PM II on a parallel mounting system, you must first turn the elevation turret clockwise to the 65th click. This will bring the reticle to the center of the tube and allow you to mount the scope in the conventional way.

 

To raise point of impact, turn the elevation turret clockwise to a higher number; or counterclockwise to a lower number to lower point of impact.

 

Should you need to lower the point of impact more than the turret will allow, loosen the two Allen screws at the top of the turret with the 2mm Allen wrench provided. Turn the turret to a higher number and retighten the screws. Once the elevation has been adjusted to your satisfaction, loosen the screws again and reposition the turret to allow sufficient up and down adjustment at the distance you are sighted in.

 

To adjust the windage, move the windage turret clockwise in the direction of the arrow to move point of impact to the right, or counterclockwise to move point of impact to the left. To reposition the windage cam, loosen the two screws on the top of the turret, set the turret to "0" and tighten the screws.

 

Custom elevation rings

Schmidt & Bender offers owners of Precision Hunter and Police Marksman scopes the option of a custom engraved elevation ring. For more information, contact your dealer or the Schmidt & Bender distributor closest to you.

Edited May 13, 2010 by Vipa

[docholiday]

What? ok top turret Anti clock wise = UP

 

Side turret Clockwise = Left YES?

 

Les

 

 

Thats correct. good luck

doc

[kyska]

What? ok top turret Anti clock wise = UP

 

Side turret Clockwise = Left YES?

 

Les

 

Yes mate

 

Sorry, it does sound confusing

 

Top turret- Up is anticlockwise/Down clockwise

Side- Anticlockwise is right/left clockwise

[harv]

Stick the gun on a steady rest look thru the scope and turn thie turrets you can see which direction the ret is moving.

[Colster]

Stick the gun on a steady rest look thru the scope and turn thie turrets you can see which direction the ret is moving.

 

Can't believe it took us 12 posts to come up with this.

[Lez325]

Stick the gun on a steady rest look thru the scope and turn thie turrets you can see which direction the ret is moving.

 

 

Now that sounds like a plan I rang my mate who looked at his German optics and came up with

 

ELEVATION (Top Turret) Clockwise = DOWN ( screw down the ret)

 

WINDAGE ( Side Turret) Clockwise = LEFT ( Push the ret)

 

Simples

 

Anybody wanna buy a 222 - never zeroed , but had 40 rounds through it- frightening a target

 

Les

 

Ps thanks for the ( confusing ) help guys)

Edited May 13, 2010 by Lez325

[Lez325]

Lez,

 

Up is anti-clockwise and left is clockwise (right is to click the turret towards you when its mounted)

 

Kyska

 

 

You were RIGHT all along

 

Les

[wymberley]

Yep, it's age and it only gets gets worse. The only is to answer is to make a note five seconds each time you make a note an adjustment. I can't remember which way I adjusted five seconds sooner. Did I just say that? Where' the pen? Can't find the pencil. ****. 5 clockwise.

Cheers

[Dekers]

Can't believe it took us 12 posts to come up with this.

 

I can't believe the question has even been asked.................

 

and trying to zero at 100 yards Im exhausted walking up and down the range and constanty moving the turrets the wrong way

 

How difficult is it to over compensate with turret turns and look at the target through the scope?? Now you know which way to turn!!

 

My eyes are **** but I can see a HMR entry hole on a target at 100 yards on 6x magnification!!

 

Someone tell me what makes this complicated!

 

Cheers

[Vipa]

So are we saying that Schmidt Bender are different to all other scope manufacturers then

Edited May 13, 2010 by Vipa

[pigglet]

Dunno exactly what you've tried so far but what I usually do is thus

 

Using a pice of A4 with a 1" shoot and see dot in the middle as my targetat 40 - 50 yds

 

Set rifle up on locked bi pod and shooting bag under the stock, remove bolt and look down the bore, adjust where the gun is aiming using the bag and bipod so the result is the shoot and see dot is visible through the barrel without you having to hold the rifle.

 

Now look through the scope and without moving the rifle, adjust windage and elevation as necessary to bring the ret onto the target. when adjusting this way you will need to move the turrets in the OPPOSITE direction to that which you would normally(when you turn the turret in the direction that is marked down it is lifting the ret against the target so as to move the point of impact down) ie if you need to lift the ret onto the target you'd turn the elevation adjuster in the DOWN direction.

 

Keep checking down the barrel to make sure the target is in the centre.

 

When you have bothe the barrel and ret on the target you're ready to fire a test group.

Still keeping the rifle supported, shoot at the centre of the shoot and see target. Don't worry if it's a bit out your trying to put 3-5 shot in the same place, not bang on teh target so keep your point of aim the same. If you've boresighted correctly you're group should be somewhere near. On teh A4 at least.

 

Now trying not to move the rifle after you've taken your 3-5 shots (when you leave go of it the ret should still be on the shoot and see target) adjust teh windage and elevation as necessary to bring the ret onto you're 3-5 shot group.

 

Shoot another group. You should now be on teh shoot and see. Fine tune the windage if needed and then move out to your desired zero.

If you know the trajectory of your amo then dial in to suit or just repeat the above. You should only have to raise the point of impact now.

 

Sounds fiddly but it's a doddle when you get used to it and requires no fannying about with collimators or laser sighters (it's usually more accurate than them too!)

 

HTH

Edited May 13, 2010 by pigglet