unclestuffy Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Theoretically (and to avoid a large discussion regarding wetland birds etc) which is the most humane way of removing a large quantity of moulting birds in an semi-industrial setting? The site is a lower tier CoMAH hazardous installation if that makes a difference Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Just make sure you read fully the General Licence on such matters, it's not as straight forward as you think. Oh and by the way under the Wildlife & Countryside Act there's no such thing as 'pest' species any longer! Assuming all is legal then rifling them would be the quickest, most humane way but if that's not possible then live catch traps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 (edited) What harm are the geese doing there? As its an industrial site it might be best to leave them alone. You could wait until ythey regain their flight feathers and walk them off of if they are reluctant to leave use a dog. Canadas are easy to move on without killing them once they can fly again. Otherwise find where the geese are feeding and invite some fowlers to flight them after september 1st. Edited July 14, 2010 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonevo Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Personally under the circumstances I would not resort to killing these geese but merely moving them on, using banger ropes or a gas gun providing that it is suitable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo57 Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 If they are flightless, there is no need to kill them. Any of the animal organisations like the RSPB or RSPCA will round them up and move them to a safer environment if you explain what the problem is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 (edited) If they are flightless, there is no need to kill them. Any of the animal organisations like the RSPB or RSPCA will round them up and move them to a safer environment if you explain what the problem is. the RSPB kill them and puncture their eggs , coat eggs in oil you must live a blinkerd life Edited July 14, 2010 by JRS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 If they are flightless, there is no need to kill them. Any of the animal organisations like the RSPB or RSPCA will round them up and move them to a safer environment if you explain what the problem is. Hell...... that's easy then...just ask the RSPB or RSPCA and they will solve all your problems for the price of a phone call!! Do they do that for rabbits, foxes, corvids, pigeon, squirrel, deer etc. etc, ..makes you wonder how any Pest Controller ever makes a living! PS... please let us all know what happens when you call them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 You just have a word with your local Eastern European community. The geese will soon start to disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) the RSPB kill them and puncture their eggs , coat eggs in oil you must live a blinkerd life Really??? do you have a link to a site that contains that statement- Ive know local councils coat GULLS eggs in wd 40 to prevent hatching and therefore reducing numbers, as GULLS are a pest in towns and cities- never known Geese to be culled in that fashion Les Edited July 15, 2010 by Lez325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclestuffy Posted July 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Thank you very much. The geese are to be removed because they wander into the factory where the hazardous substances are stored etc and the risk is that such an acident might lead to a Major accident Hazard so I don't think there is time to wait for the feathers to grow. Will pass this onto my friend and will let you know what he does. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo57 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 the RSPB kill them and puncture their eggs , coat eggs in oil you must live a blinkerd life You really are an ignorant twerp. The RSPB use recognised humane population control techniques on specific breeding sites where there is a danger of overbreeding. Coating and pricking eggs are effective because the goose continues to try to incubate the unviable eggs rather than laying another clutch, which she would do if the eggs were removed. This is simply good management. But RSPB (and RSPCA) will always use a non-fatal solution to an animal welfare problem when they can. If the geese in this example were not flightless, they would give advice on scaring. As they are flightless at present and, apparently, in danger, they will move them if they can. In a free-winged situation, the general licence can be used to reduce a problem population of Canada geese, when it is usually only necessary to kill a few in order to reduce the problem. In the situation described in this post the only "final solution" would be to kill them all. Can you honestly see the RSPB allowing that to happen with all the bad publicity (and cancelling of donations from nice old ladies) that would entail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 The RSPB allow fox culling on their land, but don't advertise it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 "The geese are to be removed as they wander into the factory....." Shut the door! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Thank you very much. The geese are to be removed because they wander into the factory where the hazardous substances are stored etc and the risk is that such an acident might lead to a Major accident Hazard so I don't think there is time to wait for the feathers to grow. Will pass this onto my friend and will let you know what he does. Thank you Wander into to the factory and do what? How could a wandering goose start a major accident hazard in a factory? Couldn't a staff member pursue the troublesome wandering goose with a broom and shoo it from the premises. If a goose can wander in to a store full of hazardous chemicals then who else could that shouldn't be there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 It you just want to keep them from walking into the factory a low electric fence should do the job or even a wire netting fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 The recommended method of culling large numbers is to round them up whilst they are flightless and humanely destroy them. As they are now flightless you have chosen the correct time to cull them on your site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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