V8landy Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Not sure if this is the best section for this but here goes. Looking for some advice and tips for my next project! Progressing on from my Mantis 4 stroke tiller to my Howard 350, due to my increasing land acquisitions I am looking to progress onto a small tractor :hurray::hurray::hurray: Wanting a classic type unit, but as adaptable as possible for most small holder applications i.e PTO etc. Most recommended to me thus far is the Massey 35, but price and availability reflects this. Any other recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 what about a ferguson? pre massey. My father has a bit of a collection, mostly massey harris, he does have a restored 35x, very nice and very expensive. he had a couple of 30's for sale, try scouring fleabay for a MH 50, a little bigger than the 35 but cheaper, he uses one for the meadow with a grass box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 What about a Grey Fergie ? BJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dempy Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 I know it is not what you were looking for but if you can find a 35 it is the best in my opion, great, reliable and simple little tractor and so easy to get spares, as they are still made now (under a license), shame you didnt post earlier as I sold one myself about 6 months ago You can find ones that havent been restored for around £1000-£1500, try looking round the farm dispersal sales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 A 135x is more economical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Thanks guys for your very quick replys. to try and cover your coments. 1 a 135 is to modern looking for wat I want. 2 A grey fergy is the style I am looking for, which is like the massey 35, basicaly a seat and thats it. 3 I will be getting 5 acres, so not major, but mainly want it for "tinckering" with. Will probaly try to get to Pickering show or atleast Driffield, I am sure there will be some tractors there. A bit of barn snooping I think is required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Ok, a list of some of my fathers collection, these are fairly small, old fashioned, but have PTOs and lifters. MH colt MH mustang MH 444 MH 50 MH 55 there's more but i can't remember all of them, if you want then i'll have a look tomorrow and take pics. I've left out the pony and pacer as they just have fixed draw bars and no PTO (his do anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dempy Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MASSEY-FERGUSSON-35-...=item1e5d545808 perfick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProteuS Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 the 35 is a classic, but usually commands a pretty hefty premium. What about the likes of a ford 3000, or similar international. Although that may be getting into classic territory rather than antique. Definately get a diesel as petrol / tvo's tend to be thirsty and a bit of a pain. I'd reccomend getting something before it gets into purely enthusiast territory as that is when the price tends to creep up. particularly for what you get. Still the 35 and 135s with a removable front end loader, are great little bits of kit. I seem to recall a tremendous number went over to ireland as yard scrapers amongst other things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) Definately get a diesel as petrol / tvo's tend to be thirsty and a bit of a pain. I would rather have a diesel, not that fuel ecconmy will come into my requirements. What is TVO's ? classic territory rather than antique. I think my use of the word Antique is me being genneric for that style of tractor. So classic might be a better word. Basiclay as long as it looks old, but can handle most modern or easly obtainable extras that a small holder needs (likes) then that is what I want. Edited August 1, 2010 by V8landy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minkhunter Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 everybody seems to be massey mad...try going for a fordson dexta,,cheap to buy,,loads of parts available new and second hand,nice to drive and work.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 everybody seems to be massey mad... I guess it is like most things that the more popular they are, etc. It was like when I got my Howard rotovator prices can go mad for them, but the name jumps out at people Like Hoover is to Hoovers (if you get my drift. Fordson Dextra looks good http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fordson-Dexta-tracto...=item2c564634e9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProteuS Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 I would rather have a diesel, not that fuel ecconmy will come into my requirements. What is TVO's ? I think my use of the word Antique is me being genneric for that style of tractor. So classic might be a better word. Basiclay as long as it looks old, but can handle most modern or easly obtainable extras that a small holder needs (likes) then that is what I want. If I remember correctly it stands for tractor vapourising oil. It was basically a cheaper alternative to petrol somewhat similar to petrol mixed with a bit of keroscene. People often used paraffin as an alternative too. They usually had two tanks and you started up on petrol then switched to tvo once hot. I think diesels are much better generally, and have the bonus of less electrics to worry about. If you pick up a magasine like tractor and machinery, or classic tractor you'll see people often spend a lot on tractors of a certain age, perhaps having fond memories of them. For one to use and play with something of the classic ilk would pretty much be ideal. We've got a 3000 with power loader that is really just used for launching a boat, but is used to pull trees down every so often. the only things it really misses for our use is 4wd and power steering. with a front end loader on it really is a bit of a pain. If you're just after a machine. some of these eastern european 80's or 90's tractors can be had for very little, are a bit more modern and powerful. but still with nice basic strong mechanicals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattslaptop247 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Thanks guys for your very quick replys. to try and cover your coments. 1 a 135 is to modern looking for wat I want. 2 A grey fergy is the style I am looking for, which is like the massey 35, basicaly a seat and thats it. 3 I will be getting 5 acres, so not major, but mainly want it for "tinckering" with. Will probaly try to get to Pickering show or atleast Driffield, I am sure there will be some tractors there. A bit of barn snooping I think is required. If you're getting 5 acres, does that mean I can have permission on it!! (You're in HOSM arn't you?!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 what are you looking to spend is the crucial factor? The older types are becoming pretty popular with a growing number of what can only really be described as Anoracs who paint them up and take them to vintage tractor rallyes every weekend to talk to other beardy blokes about tractors. 5 acres isn't much and most of the small ones will cope, personally I'd be looking at either a newer kubota or an older ford or massey. The latter will give you more choice of implements as they will handle larger kit which will be cheaper to source from the nettles on a lot of farms as most is obsolete these days. If you let the head rule the heart you'd better be good with a set of spanners and a big set of spanners at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 MF 35/ dexta along those lines, you dont want a te20 for 'work' as they only have a single clutch and every time you put your foot on the clutch the drive to the mower etc is cut :\ Go for a 3 cyl 35 rather than a 4cyl, the 4 runs smoother and sounds nicer and works well when its just been rebuilt but mine always needs easy start, where as my 3 pot starts straight up. If you got for new and as its such a small area have a look at the siroma flatpack tractor, proberly cheaper than a 35 a better spec and its new, I liken it to the escort of the tractor world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Sounds like I won't be the only PW'er going to the GDSF this year then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I didn't know you were that old or posessed that good a beard yet Dunkield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I am reliably informed it is a good do with lots of varied stuff (not just tractors and steam engines) and of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 real ale I would imagine and cider at about the 9% level loved by the good old yokels, we have a local one and its verging on comical the types that frequent the pub, though some of the steam engines that have been tweaked to do about 20mph with no brakes are entertaining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 we've got a MF35 you could buy,it looks rough but it'll do a good days work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I don't think the old grey fergusons have a PTO, how about an international B275? got all the bits you require. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I don't think the old grey fergusons have a PTO, how about an international B275? got all the bits you require. Errm..... yes they do, a lil stubby odd ball thing, but you can convert them to normal size, but its a complete waste of time becasue there still useless for pto work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted August 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 (edited) Sounds like I won't be the only PW'er going to the GDSF this year then.. GDSF arh just googled GDSF http://www.gdsf.co.uk/ To far for me will be either going to Pickering or Driffield, same things realy. Edited August 2, 2010 by V8landy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 Errm..... yes they do, a lil stubby odd ball thing, but you can convert them to normal size, but its a complete waste of time becasue there still useless for pto work Geek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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