milo2005 Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Can anyone tell me if there is a difference , ie speed ,trajectory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 (edited) Can anyone tell me if there is a difference , ie speed ,trajectory Speed? No Trajectory? Not an issue at shotgun ranges Pattern? Yes. Generally plastic wads with a a shot cup will throw a slightly tighter pattern. Because the outer pellets in a fibre wad load are in contact with the barrel during their travel up the barrel they distort a little and so fly a little less true. In my experience though the difference is marginal and unnoticeable unless your a far better shot than I am. In fact some might say the slightly more open pattern from fibre could be an advantage when shooting at short range, pigeons over decoys for example? The real difference is plastic are cheaper (a bit), but fibre are better for the environment and farm livestock. I use fibre all the time for clays and live quarry. Edited September 10, 2010 by Blunderbuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 I was hoping someone might develop a wad which increases the pattern substantially rather than constrict it. Say a diameter of 25 m at 30 m !!! that way I might start hitting something again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 trajectory, yes only noticable at +60 yrds ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 I was hoping someone might develop a wad which increases the pattern substantially rather than constrict it. Say a diameter of 25 m at 30 m !!! that way I might start hitting something again. They have! Not that you need them you old bluffer! You can shoot straight enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Not that it was on your list but i've found same cartridge type in plastic is softer on the shoulder (I use Eley Firsts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 saw a couple of inches off the end of the gun, that will open up the pattern a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Cartridge companies prefer plastic wads because they go through their automated loading machines more efficiently and they are much cheaper to buy in bulk. There was a lot of selling hype around plastic wads years ago but that has largely been discounted since. They are simply cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubel458 Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 (edited) In our 12ga FH testing at the higher speeds for slugs/buckshot, the BPGS (BPI's name for it) plastic seal gets us 100 to 150 fps more than card wads. It is a Gualandi wad. It is a one sided seal, where one side only is to go on the powder.And the top side of it fits a cushion wad as well as some wad cups. For open patterns there are spreader wads and wads cups. Ed Edited September 20, 2010 by hubel458 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 I prefer to use fibre simply because they're better for the environment. I don't like the idea of plastic being lobbed around the countryside when there are alternatives (in fact these alternatives were around long before the plastic shot cups were invented). Plastic may offer a slight benefit? I'm no expert and to be honest I'm not even that great a shot with a shotgun but I can't see plastic wads making a noticeable difference for me. In my view the gains they offer fall well short of the disadvantage of your wads showing up for perhaps hundreds of years every time a field gets ploughed! I just wont use plastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 The only real difference between plastic and fibre wads is in your head. THey will both kill birds the same as long as you do your bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 Speed? No Trajectory? Not an issue at shotgun ranges Pattern? Yes. Generally plastic wads with a a shot cup will throw a slightly tighter pattern. Because the outer pellets in a fibre wad load are in contact with the barrel during their travel up the barrel they distort a little and so fly a little less true. In my experience though the difference is marginal and unnoticeable unless your a far better shot than I am. In fact some might say the slightly more open pattern from fibre could be an advantage when shooting at short range, pigeons over decoys for example? The real difference is plastic are cheaper (a bit), but fibre are better for the environment and farm livestock. I use fibre all the time for clays and live quarry. thats the post i would of sent spot on : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 I prefer to use fibre simply because they're better for the environment. I don't like the idea of plastic being lobbed around the countryside when there are alternatives (in fact these alternatives were around long before the plastic shot cups were invented). Plastic may offer a slight benefit? I'm no expert and to be honest I'm not even that great a shot with a shotgun but I can't see plastic wads making a noticeable difference for me. In my view the gains they offer fall well short of the disadvantage of your wads showing up for perhaps hundreds of years every time a field gets ploughed! I just wont use plastic! There are4 advantages of plastic shot cups the ideal would be a biodegradable shot cup that will decompose ideal for steel shot over water in older guns. I would like to see biodegradable casings as most used casings go into landfill.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Can anyone tell me if there is a difference , ie speed ,trajectory Depends where you want to use them. On fields always use felt wads, farmers, landowners will not want to be picking up plastic wads all winter. shooting clays at a clay ground then use what you want, they have facilities to collect wads etc. There is no real difference on speed, pattern quality etc in use. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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