jcf1 Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 (edited) Here she is in standard stock: and synthetic: Just finished making up a few loads to test in it, then bugs and charlie will feel the wrath of the fireball Edited October 30, 2010 by jcf1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sethb Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 looks good,what grain of bullet are you using in your home loads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcf1 Posted October 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 25gr v-max, with H4198. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddoakley Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 so are you allowed out on Sunday to try it? I am hoping to get down for the afternoon/evening and a spot of lamping too!! Edd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcf1 Posted October 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 maybe sunday evening bud if you are about then? If you are lucky I might let you watch me miss some rabbits with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddoakley Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 maybe sunday evening bud if you are about then? If you are lucky I might let you watch me miss some rabbits with it Sounds about right, dont understand new calibres when we can all miss perfectly well with the stuff we have got I have some stuff to sort 2moro but will let you know what Les and I plan. ATB Edd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Nice rifle! I used the 25grn V-Max through my Ackley Hornet and they work very well. The little .17s are lovely rifles for flat ground, you almost have to try to make them ricochet. They make soup of a Charlies internals too, but then most things would at 3500fps+! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcf1 Posted October 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Nice rifle! I used the 25grn V-Max through my Ackley Hornet and they work very well. The little .17s are lovely rifles for flat ground, you almost have to try to make them ricochet. They make soup of a Charlies internals too, but then most things would at 3500fps+! I can imagine! Most of the foxing vids I've seen with .17 they seem to drop with a shudder - very humane. Mind you I can't fault my .308 as a cracker of a foxing tool, this ones mainly for the bunnies. Got sick to the back teeth of utterly ridiculous hmr ammo prices locally, and this works out around the same cost but performance that isn't even comparable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Lovely looking rifle mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 I din't understand all of these new calibers but I guess that it is "Fox Legal" (Thinking about it that is a stupid thing to say or you wouldn't say you were going to "frighten" Charlie with it would you - Oh well it's early in the morning for me, sorry!) The important thing is that it looks good and I am sure it will do the job admirably. I hope you enjoj it mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andythechicken Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Nice rifle, what mod is on it? Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Nice! I'm tempted to put in for one on my next renewal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Your going to love the fireball, I have the mach IV (same thing) I use 18.5 gn benchmark with 25 gn hornady hollow points. Kills far above its weight. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 What I love about that round is that it's got a PBR over about 300 yards. ...That being on a windless night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcf1 Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 yup - fired a few through it this morning. Managed a 1" group at 100yds of a wobbly plywood bench in a muddy field. Sure I could easily get a 1/4" group on a decent benchrest. Still not blooded it, but it will do a fine job on Charlie. As far as fox legal is concerned, any rifle is effectively fox legal - just as long as it could be seen to be humane. No minimum calibre - just ACPO guidelines. I still prefer the .308 on foxes I'm pretty sure and this will mostly be a rabbit gun I expect but I'd rather slot charlie with this than the hmr it replaced. This has some serious speed on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcf1 Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 only real complaint is that being a narrow bore the barrel heats up quickly and stays warm for longer, so zeroing took some patience. Could also REALLY do with a magazine rather than floorplate for bunny bashing in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 (edited) Awesome little round I was well impressed and for the chap who asked- the mod is a - Wildcat Predator 8 heres the 3 rifles we zeroed this morning top to botton 308 - jcf1 17 Fireball - jcf1 223 - mine can't wait to see how destructive the 17 Fireball is on Bunnies ( we'll know better on Sunday evening) :Les Edited October 2, 2010 by Lez325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Sounds about right, dont understand new calibres when we can all miss perfectly well with the stuff we have got I have some stuff to sort 2moro but will let you know what Les and I plan. ATB Edd You have PM Edd Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Hang on a minute... I've just read back through this and noticed you say it's going to be used for Bunnies in place of a HMR?! Good man! You think just like me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 nice looking gun but its wasted as a bunny gun, make a good fox and winged vermin gun though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 (edited) nice looking gun but its wasted as a bunny gun, make a good fox and winged vermin gun though i agree i wouldnt like to use it on bunnys all the time. me and my old man are thinking of having his 222 changed for a 17 or 20 cal next year. will more then likely be the 20 tac as it will have a choice of 32 grain bullets at 4000fps or the 40 grain bullets around 3700 fps to 3800 fps WITH deadly accuracy Edited October 6, 2010 by jamie g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 proper bunny control is rimfire territory, and trying it with a floorplate is ineffective at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 proper bunny control is rimfire territory, and trying it with a floorplate is ineffective at best. I'm not so sure. I know on some ground a slow stalk with a .22lr is a great method but when they get really jumpy it takes much longer to stalk into range and I find it wastes a lot of time. I've got a few fields like that where I can settle down on the bipod in the middle of the field and cover the best part of 1200 yards of hedge through 360 degrees. That's where a centrefire works wonders, you can shoot anything that pops out anywhere in the field without having to move. I can bag dozens in a couple of hours with those tactics because although they hear the boom and hide, all the bunnies apart from the ones where the shot impacts don't recognise it as a local threat because nothing passes the warren. They only take a couple of minutes to come back out and you can nail another one. Often the ones behind you don't even bother to run in and you can take three or four shots in various directions before you have to pause and wait for them to return. It's expensive and the rimfires will always rule the majority of situations but now and again sniping a field like this is so much quicker than sneaking around slowly trying not to spook them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 ive got its big brother to buy .17rem but need more funds.....only problem is they want £28 a box for ammo so im reloading for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I can't imagine it will be that hard to load for. You'll need a special .17 calibre powder funnel but that's about the only non standard item you'll have to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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