paulthekiller Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Hi all bullets for .17 Ive been shooting Hornady v-max 17 gr red tip but what is the difference between the blue tip, looking on the bottom of the boxes the .17 HMR ballistics chart says /muzzle 2550 fps / 100yd 1901fps / 200yd 1378fps/.which is the same as the blue box so if anyone knows i would be interested thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 The blue tips were made for the 17HMR Mach2, which has not proved that popular. They are no different (except colour) to the red tip ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 This has been discussed several times and there are all sorts of theories, including...they got the color dies mixed up, the most likely explanation in my view is the very poor uptake of the Mach2 which used the Blue tip, hence load them into the HMR. Anyway, it's all speculation, bottom line is they are/were cheaper than the red, and as far as I have found they perform the same. Interestingly had 3 almighty ricochets with the 17g ballistic tips on Thursday never had 3 in a night before, ground was soft, very few stones, but some real whizzers! (I'm not trying to open the ricochet business again, just a observation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Hi all bullets for .17 Ive been shooting Hornady v-max 17 gr red tip but what is the difference between the blue tip, looking on the bottom of the boxes the .17 HMR ballistics chart says /muzzle 2550 fps / 100yd 1901fps / 200yd 1378fps/.which is the same as the blue box so if anyone knows i would be interested thanks i use the blue tips and there is no diffrence between them and the red tips also im getting the blues at £8.50 a box compared to £10+ for all the others stick with the blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 (edited) In answer to the question of what is the difference between the Hornady Red Tips and the Hornady Blue Tips it is quite simple - There is no difference whatsoever appart from the colour of the tips in my rifle but there might be a difference in the price from one dealer to another! I am perfectly happy to use either in my CZ452 Varmint, depending on which I can get cheaper whenever I need to buy them without having to rezero my rifle. (I currently have Red Tips available to me at £10.99 per box from Syrus at The Shooting Shack, which I think is a fairly reasonable price compared to some of the prices (Up to £18 per box from one robbing so-and so!) I have been quoted in the past!) Edit: Just out of interest Paul what price are you getting them at and where from please? Edited October 2, 2010 by Frenchieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard165 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 I have also been thinking whats the difference if any. Been zeroing my first 17hmr @ 100yds (Browning T Bolt) and was using Winchester supreme but was getting frustrated as I was only getting accurate to about 40mm. so run through some Remmingtons and then some red tips and blue tips. Out of them all I found the blue tips grouped within 15mm, red tips were about 20mm. They all cost the same £10 but I find it strange how different brands perform when you would think they should be the same, these are after all a mass produced item. Psycologically now I think that I need to stick to the blue tips and swapping will make my accuracy go down the pan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulthekiller Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 In answer to the question of what is the difference between the Hornady Red Tips and the Hornady Blue Tips it is quite simple - There is no difference whatsoever appart from the colour of the tips in my rifle but there might be a difference in the price from one dealer to another! I am perfectly happy to use either in my CZ452 Varmint, depending on which I can get cheaper whenever I need to buy them without having to rezero my rifle. (I currently have Red Tips available to me at £10.99 per box from Syrus at The Shooting Shack, which I think is a fairly reasonable price compared to some of the prices (Up to £18 per box from one robbing so-and so!) I have been quoted in the past!) Edit: Just out of interest Paul what price are you getting them at and where from please? Hi Frenchieboy Its been interesting what people say about red & blue tips but i bought 150 today at £35.67 they are £11.89 a box for the red and £9.70 for the blue from Central Garage Rufford Southport . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Interestingly had 3 almighty ricochets with the 17g ballistic tips on Thursday never had 3 in a night before, ground was soft, very few stones, but some real whizzers! (I'm not trying to open the ricochet business again, just a observation). Bear in mind though that these "real whizzers" were more than likely fragments and not whole bullets. They sound a lot worse than they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulthekiller Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Thanks everyone looks like im going to try some blue tips next time i buy some cheaper and looks like no difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 (edited) Thanks everyone looks like im going to try some blue tips next time i buy some cheaper and looks like no difference If you find a difference you will be the first! ATB! Edited October 2, 2010 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12borejimbo Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I use the blue tips as I get them at £10 per box, and bullets are bullets! However I did get a few 200 of the Remington gold tip Boatail ones and they were damn good! Accurate and messy! Just a little bit more than the Hornady ones so ill stick with them as they do the job. Hope you enjoy your .17, its a nice gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 remmy gold tips are a bit more punchy but all brands seem to shoot well in my cz452, i stick with the remmys though mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 This has been discussed several times and there are all sorts of theories, including...they got the color dies mixed up, the most likely explanation in my view is the very poor uptake of the Mach2 which used the Blue tip, hence load them into the HMR. Anyway, it's all speculation, bottom line is they are/were cheaper than the red, and as far as I have found they perform the same. Interestingly had 3 almighty ricochets with the 17g ballistic tips on Thursday never had 3 in a night before, ground was soft, very few stones, but some real whizzers! (I'm not trying to open the ricochet business again, just a observation). Weird, same ammo, same calibre, same ground conditions and I had 2 last night having never had any before! Scared the hell out of me and I had to stop and clean the barrel I was worried I'd put a dodgy round through it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 The other urban myth I heard about the colour of the Hornday ammo was that they made the bullets for another company who jibbed on the deal and just repackaged them at a cheaper price to get shut! I cant tell any difference and they hit the same zero in my Savage thumbhole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 If you find a difference you will be the first! ATB! not quite one of the Northern members thinks they won't shoot in his annie and was flogging a load of blue tips last week or so. Have to say no difference in my cz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretmanabu Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I find there's variation from different batches of ammo from the same manufacturer too. I bought a load of winchester ammo because I'd tried a box and they shot really well but the batch I bought a load of weren't so accurate. In future, I would buy one box of ammo from the shop, give them a try and if they shoot well, I'd call the shop and tell them to put 500 aside for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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