BSA_Shaun Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Evening all, I am going to be buying a scope for my Air rifle (BSA XL Tactical) and i have desided on which make i would like but i need to now what is the best from Hawke, Any price range from 0 to 150 I want: Zoom (dont mind how much zoom) Mil-dots Illuminated reticles Thanks Shaun D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 (edited) Sidewinder. Oops, more than 150.... Edited December 7, 2010 by pabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Go to your local RFD with an open mind and look through some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 (edited) There are much better scopes around, than the Hawke range :blink: go have a look at some, then choose one that suits you and your Air rifle Les Edited December 7, 2010 by Lez325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 There are much better scopes around, than the Hawke range :blink: go have a look at some, then choose one that suits you and your Air rifle Les I agree. I wouldn't buy a Hawke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA_Shaun Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I agree. I wouldn't buy a Hawke. Why not? What other make would you recmend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Why not? What other make would you recmend? Nikko, Simmons, Tasco, Bushnell, Walther......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyB Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 (edited) I have hawkes on all my four rifles including c/f,I have used them for years with no trouble,the ones i favour best are my two eclipse 30 redot 8x56, there around £134 on ebay good clear scopes atb kenny Edited December 7, 2010 by KennyB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA_Shaun Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Nikko, Simmons, Tasco, Bushnell, Walther......... http://www.uttings.co.uk/Product/543/103401/walther-4-12x50-ao-ir-rifle-scope/ Has anyone ever had this Walther scope? from what i read of it, it sounds like a good scope. Thanks Shaun D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 http://www.uttings.co.uk/Product/543/103401/walther-4-12x50-ao-ir-rifle-scope/ Has anyone ever had this Walther scope? from what i read of it, it sounds like a good scope. Thanks Shaun D. I've had the 4-9 x 42 and it was excellent. Vastly under-rated scopes. Also, cheaper here.. All Guns Discounted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoTshoT-16 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 ive got a nikko stirling game king for my bsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Had a hawke hd and eclipse x50 eo,both were good scopes although optics not as good as my bushnell & banner but then a lot cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA_Shaun Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Had a hawke hd and eclipse x50 eo,both were good scopes although optics not as good as my bushnell & banner but then a lot cheaper Did the Eclipse hold the zero well? What would you say the bad and good points are? Thanks Shaun D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 As you can see, lots of views. Hawke are no better or worse than any other "budget" scope, but Deben offer very good customer service in my book, so worth considering. You seem to have your mind set on certain specifications, and as someone else said, maybe look around a bit more. JSR own brand offer better glass than Hawke generally for similar/better money, but the build quality is worse. I have, or have had , Hawke, JSR, Nikko Sterling, AGS, Simmons, Leupold etc, and currently all my scopes are Mil dot. Look through a few and get what you want/need, it's the only way really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Bu Le Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) In the last 3 months I have had 2 Hawke scopes, took the first one back the shop and got it changed. The second one is so inconsistant I am going to send it back to the makers. Since bought 2 Nikko Stirling 4-12X50AO for use on a BSA Lightning and a HW90 good results...rate them. Wear specs.the Hawke reticle almost disappears..not so with the Nikkos. Clear view of the reticle & the mildots. Recommend them and mine are fairly bottom range, mountmaster. ATB Bri Edited December 8, 2010 by Sha Bu Le Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albion Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Personally I'd rather buy a decent secondhand Nikko Sterling or Simmons, than a lousy brand new Hawke. Unfortunately I know this from experience As mentioned above, the Nikko Gameking 4-12x50 is the dog's danglies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA_Shaun Posted December 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 In the last 3 months I have had 2 Hawke scopes, took the first one back the shop and got it changed. The second one is so inconsistant I am going to send it back to the makers. Since bought 2 Nikko Stirling 4-12X50AO for use on a BSA Lightning and a HW90 good results...rate them. Wear specs.the Hawke reticle almost disappears..not so with the Nikkos. Clear view of the reticle & the mildots. Recommend them and mine are fairly bottom range, mountmaster. ATB Bri Thanks! this made me think twice, i dont think ill buy a hawke, most of the comments on here are bad about them so ill consider a differnt make. Thanks Shaun D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 The new panorama range is supposed to be excellent but I have no first hand experience as such! I do have a hawke frontier on my R10 though and it's a fantastic replacement for the mtc I sold to fund it Check the link for some info on the panorama from people who have tried it http://bsaog.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=21996.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon_ventilator Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) In the last 3 months I have had 2 Hawke scopes, took the first one back the shop and got it changed. The second one is so inconsistant I am going to send it back to the makers. Since bought 2 Nikko Stirling 4-12X50AO for use on a BSA Lightning and a HW90 good results...rate them. Wear specs.the Hawke reticle almost disappears..not so with the Nikkos. Clear view of the reticle & the mildots. Recommend them and mine are fairly bottom range, mountmaster. ATB Bri Steer well clear of the Nite Eye SR6! Can't really speak for other models in the Hawke range. I have had to return 3 with various faults. However they all shared one problem...grease spattered on the inside of the objective lense from the factory. Also, Debens customer service/after sales is absolutley horendous! I am fighting an ongoing battle with them at the moment, regarding the faulty scopes. So beware! This is Britain after all! Bad customer service seems to be the norm in this country nowadays, unfortunately. Edited December 9, 2010 by pigeon_ventilator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock1 Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 I have had a hawke nite eye 4-16 x 50 for about 6 years now. I first had it on a HMR and now on an air arms s410 extra. Ive had no problems with it what so ever and think it wasnt a bad scope optically for the money. About 140 at the time. Think I would go for a second hand scope of better quality next time though, just for better quality low light shooting. Daytime shooting the hawke is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 I have a 3-9x50 eclipse ir ao and the reticule turned inside the tube which was a pain had to send it back and get another one (life time warrenty ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Had a 3-9 x 50 HD sport, cheap scope with clear optics but wouldn't hold zero. I wouldn't get another Hawke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 As you can see, lots of views. Hawke are no better or worse than any other "budget" scope, but Deben offer very good customer service in my book, so worth considering. You seem to have your mind set on certain specifications, and as someone else said, maybe look around a bit more. JSR own brand offer better glass than Hawke generally for similar/better money, but the build quality is worse. I have, or have had , Hawke, JSR, Nikko Sterling, AGS, Simmons, Leupold etc, and currently all my scopes are Mil dot. Look through a few and get what you want/need, it's the only way really! Excellent advice and I agree with it. I have a Sidewinder 30 on my FAC air rifle and it's an excellent scope for the money. (And, FWIW, my two powder burner's both have Zeiss scopes so I know what a decent scope is! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garden gun Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Horses for courses and budget. My Hawke Sport HD has worked fine for 5 years. But as my handle suggests I am currently only shooting local vermin so 4X32 is fine. Hold zero OK. Then what do you want for £30 list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YROCK Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Evening all, I am going to be buying a scope for my Air rifle (BSA XL Tactical) and i have desided on which make i would like but i need to now what is the best from Hawke, Any price range from 0 to 150 I want: Zoom (dont mind how much zoom) Mil-dots Illuminated reticles Thanks Shaun D. I always have used and rate highly for the money the map 6 airmax range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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