ppuk Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 looking for your views on replying to for sale threads compared to pm .I replied to a post to buy an item for sale and backed it up with pm a little miffed to be told seller is selling to first pm and not the first on thread so whats the point in replying to posts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I know what you mean other forums i use its the first to reply on thread as everyone can see who was first to offer the asking price but they are far more strict on classifieds and it works really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppuk Posted December 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 maybe the mods can put up a ruling on this i've not seen one if one already exists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintime Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 yes they should but its worse the other way people asking for stuff by pm then once you have it changeing there mind happens quite often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 maybe the mods can put up a ruling on this i've not seen one if one already exists On other forums Im a member of potential buyers can only respond by PM as replies are blocked. This is a very good solution in my opinion and gets rid of all the tyre Kickers and time wasters and the stupid inane comments like..... "Oh lovely gun mate Ive got one like it but mines a dogs dodas models if I didnt have 15 already and hadnt just lost me job and wasnt 500 miles from you id have it like a shot... would you deliver for £50 quid £250 seems a bit High" comments which are so bloody annoying. Its about time Sales were PM only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Just got to face it,there are some ******* on the forum.I told someone i would take their Beretta they had advertised and told them i would get back about payment and RFD details.They agreed but didnt post that is was sold.Next time i checked,it was sold to someone else.Didnt say anything to them,if thats the way they want to act dont lose any sleep over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I think the best one is I have it I will send a small sum you post it to me. When I get it I will say it lossed in the post and Bobs your uncle you got a freebie. Cheers OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I'd say it's fair to sell to whoever makes contact first? That's the way I always do it and think it's the most fair way to do things. If you reply on the post and it's already gone then oh well, it was never yours so the seller can let it go to whoever they like. It can be annoying when you miss out but be honest, it's not the end of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy1403 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 it`s fine the way it is. if the seller wants to show himself or herself as a good-un then they put in the post first to reply on post gets it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppuk Posted December 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 On other forums Im a member of potential buyers can only respond by PM as replies are blocked. This is a very good solution in my opinion and gets rid of all the tyre Kickers and time wasters and the stupid inane comments like..... "Oh lovely gun mate Ive got one like it but mines a dogs dodas models if I didnt have 15 already and hadnt just lost me job and wasnt 500 miles from you id have it like a shot... would you deliver for £50 quid £250 seems a bit High" comments which are so bloody annoying. Its about time Sales were PM only. mike i see your a site supporter maybe you have the clout to sort this issue one way or another at least if we know if its pm or post there is no confusion or ill feeling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy1403 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 on the other hand sometimes i dont want everyone knowing what i`ve bought so p/m keeps it private Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Agree with Nick its there items for sale not yours no POST or PM is every a legal binding Contract. Until the Cash is swopped for items and both parties our happy. So you got to live with it no diffrent to any other means of sales. Be it in your papershop or Ebay the seller can sell to somebody inbetween you making contact and viewing or paying for the item . Cheers OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppuk Posted December 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 so really the consensus is dont bother with post just pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy1403 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 if you really want what is being sold it dosn`t hurt to do both say on post you want it and back it up with a pm hopfully that would be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppuk Posted December 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 if you really want what is being sold it dosn`t hurt to do both say on post you want it and back it up with a pm hopfully that would be enough. totally agree fella even if someone put on post pm sent at least other people know there is interest in item before you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 yes they should but its worse the other way people asking for stuff by pm then once you have it changeing there mind happens quite often I won't argue with you on that one - happened to me on this very forum and radio silence from the guy that agreed to buy the item to this date. A real PITA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSPUK Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I put two guns on here - I will think twice before I put up anything for sale again - total load of tyre kickers - asking stupid questions - saying they will have it and never hear from them again.- To my mind first to ask get's first choice post or pm. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Thats why it should all be done in public and if people agree to buy then don't they get banned....Simples there are also trader ratings plugins for most forums where you can add ratings for each transaction so just like ebay you know a persons history of trading (not what they bought just that they deal went through or didn't) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinistercr0c Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 There are also those unscrupulous sellers who, after you make contact with them, agree a price and request a date/time for the deal, never get back to you. I've had personal experience of this recently in this very forum from someone who apparently deals guns on here quite a bit so its not always the buyer who's the PITA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 The Sales section has been on the Forum for over 8 years. In that time we have had very few problems and when you take into account the amount of transactions that have taken place, that is quite remarkable. We review the section from time to time and one result is the present three subsections format, under the banner of The Trading Post. The main purpose of Pigeon Watch is not to be a buy and sell Forum, there are plenty of other places dedicated to that activity. There are no plans to change any of the Terms and Conditions or procedures for the time being, but they will continue to be kept under review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I think that the ones that use the forum purely to sell stuff should at least make a donantion to the upkeep of the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 there also seem to be a few "semi professional" traders of both guns and equipment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Agree with Nick its there items for sale not yours no POST or PM is every a legal binding Contract. Until the Cash is swopped for items and both parties our happy. So you got to live with it no diffrent to any other means of sales. Be it in your papershop or Ebay the seller can sell to somebody inbetween you making contact and viewing or paying for the item . Cheers OTH You are wrong if mr a, offers something for sale for £50 and mr b, offers £40 for it thats then accepted,then consideration has been shown and this is a legally binding contract that can be upheld in a court of law,as far as i can remember mr b would also be able to claim costs and out of pocket expenses against mr a,this was one of the first lessons we had on 'forming a contract'. I have both bought and sold on here,it is surprising to me that you do not have to be a trusted member etc to sell and can just sell with your first post or use the forum purely as a sales avenue as at least one member is doing right now. Maybe next time its reviewed some of the suggestions here maybe taken into consideration as to the way that posts/sales are conducted fairly etc. The most important thing is that the privelige of selling on the forum is not lost through misuse or invaded by the more dishonest amongst us. IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPV4 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I think the trading section of the forum works well I have bought several items and sold several items and except for two occasions there has been no problems and those I have dealt with have been a credit to the forum. The one issue I had was someone posted they would have the item I was selling and weeks and weeks later refused to pay as they didn't have the money and were hoping I would either give them the item of wait for months while they got the money together I have to say thanks to one of the Mods who eventually banned the person from the forum due to the content of some of the posted the guy sent me, he was lucky a ban was all he got The other occasion was while selling an item, the first person to PM me purchased the item, and didn't reply on the thread. While in negotiation with the first person, someone else posted on the thread they wanted the item, but it was almost sold. I am a man of my word and sold to the first person to cantact me even though the second person offered more money. As soon as the sale was agreed I posted it as sold on the advert and the one who posted on the thread was a little upset but after a couple of PM's it was all sorted without problem I do agree that there are a few tyre kickers lurking about and use the trading threads to just boost their post count, and it always sticks a little when someones first post is a "for sale" post :blink: As far as traders or semi traders selling on the forum. I don't mind on the condition they state they are a trader and the items come with warranty and the items they sell are cheaper than can be purchased on-line or in-store, everyone likes a good deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I put two guns on here - I will think twice before I put up anything for sale again - total load of tyre kickers - asking stupid questions - saying they will have it and never hear from them again.- To my mind first to ask get's first choice post or pm. Dave There are also those unscrupulous sellers who, after you make contact with them, agree a price and request a date/time for the deal, never get back to you. I've had personal experience of this recently in this very forum from someone who apparently deals guns on here quite a bit so its not always the buyer who's the PITA. First quote, that's the way I work...I've sold quite a bit of different gear on PW. I go by the times the post, or the PM was sent/posted, first come, first served...if it goes **** up, it's onto the next one who's next inline time wise. Second quote, I've had that a few times before, there loss not mine. Got a list to make sure I don't make the same mistake again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.