farmerguy.22 Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 hi i have had a request from a fellow farmer friend to shoot a problem patch on his acreage. i have had my certificate for about 2 1/2 months and at point 6 it says " The .22RF rifle, sound-moderator and ammunition shall be used for shooting verming and ground game and for zeroing on ranges, or land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police for the area where the land is situated and over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot." i know the land is cleared for centrefire rifle use and i have permision from the farmer to shoot it. i have not informed the police about shooting this land. As i am slightly confussed about what the quote is sayin could someone shed some light. i am unsure wether i can shoot the land or not. or do you sujest i just call them n ask? any help would be great! cheers FG.22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 You need to tell them that you will be shooting on that land. Phone them up, and as it is cleared for cf use it will be on their books and they would be likely to grant you permission without needing to check it. They will just add a note on to their computer saying you have permision to shoot it. Gibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 You need to tell them that you will be shooting on that land. Phone them up, and as it is cleared for cf use it will be on their books and they would be likely to grant you permission without needing to check it. They will just add a note on to their computer saying you have permision to shoot it.Gibby sorry but this is all wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 do tell... thats exactly how it works down in my neck of the woods. Gibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 if you know the land has been cleared? then I assume the landowner has told you that and invited you to shoot? if so go ahead and shoot as the responsibility if it has not been cleared is the landowners (again assuming he DID tell you its cleared) this is verbatim from my FLD cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 do tell... thats exactly how it works down in my neck of the woods.Gibby quite simple really. he can legally shoot on cleared land, so does not have to inform the firearms department. if it turns out its not cleared then it falls on the farmers feet. if they are telling you different in bristol, then they are telling you wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 if you have an open licence then you can shoot on it,the same as i shoot all my farms,untill you have an open licence you cant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 if you have an open licence then you can shoot on it,the same as i shoot all my farms,untill you have an open licence you cant. sorry if the land IS cleared he can shoot cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 if you have an open licence then you can shoot on it,the same as i shoot all my farms,untill you have an open licence you cant. sorry but this is very wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 with an open licence you can check the ground, and shoot it but if anything gos wrong then its on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 I would ring the FLO and ask, for the sake of a phone call it is all sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 with an open licence you can check the ground, and shoot it but if anything gos wrong then its on you. the land is already checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 I would ring the FLO and ask, for the sake of a phone call it is all sorted exactly what I did/ when I was offered land outside my area, owner said land was cleared by another force up to .243 I phoned FLD and asked if I could have land checked to see if it WAS was told no need if the landowner says its cleared its down to him, also got a" we cant possibly check EVERY single piece of land" go ahead and shoot, and I did and still do cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Im getting confused . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Im getting confused . so are others frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Im getting confused . I have edited my last post to make it a bit easier to understand what I was trying to put accross, hope its more helpfull, cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerguy.22 Posted March 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 cheers for all the replies. seems to be a fair few mixed views on this so to be safe as houses i will just give them a call when i get time! if they say go ahead then sorted. thanx again FG.22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Surely its worth checking with the FLO to see if he can take the farmers word that the land has passed. What if he gets caught on the said land and the farmer denies telling him it had been cleared!!! I'd make the call to the firearms dept. and ask if it is ok to shoot it. They will tell you over the phone if it's passed and there will be no comebacks if you do get stopped whilst lamping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 What if he gets caught on the said land and the farmer denies telling him it had been cleared!!! thats why you should allways have permission in writing, saying what you can shoot and with which gun/s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 i know the land is cleared for centrefire rifle use and i have permision from the farmer to shoot it.i have not informed the police about shooting this land. If your certain about your statement then go ahead ..........You don't need to inform the Police ................If in doubt either seek written permission which is'nt required BTW or contact the Flo with the land holding number for confirmation . To be honest you won't relax and enjoy your shooting if you have any doubts or lack of confidence in the system so a Phone call would be very worth it . Ive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 thats why you should allways have permission in writing, saying what you can shoot and with which gun/s. This makes a great deal of sense to me. This is how it works over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 The source of information regarding its clearance should come from the Police. Give them a call and ask if it is cleared and for what. If as you say, its cleared for a particular centrefire round then you will be ok to shoot it with your .22LR. If not, get your FEO to check the land and clear it for you. It is your responsibility and yours alone, to ensure you operate within the law. PS hadnt noticed you posted twice, so here's a copy of my response in the other thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 My instructions from Leicester FEO are... Phone this office to check that the land has been cleared for the calibre of gun YOU use (they wont tell what it's actually cleared for) And get WRITTEN permission from the owner or person who grants shooting rights. The person who can grant shooting rights will most likely be a gamekeeper if that land is part of a substantial estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 (edited) my fac, has no named farm on it and says,the .22 rifle, rimfire,and the.22 sound moderator (rimfire rifle)and ammunition shall be used for vermin control and for zeroing on ranges, or land over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot.now that gives me an open ticket to shoot on anyland with full authority to shoot it.does it not. Edited March 14, 2006 by mossy835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 (edited) Mossy - yip you have an open ticket - which is not the issue? Farmerguy: Certificates do not refer to any specific land - However the FEO will keep details of your "base permission" in their office, that is the permission that gave you your reason to shoot. They also keep a register of cleared land. I always check with the FEO if any land I have been given permission is cleared for the calibre of gun I propose to use on it. Edited March 14, 2006 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.