scottk Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 (edited) Hi new to the forum just wanted to introduce myself and say hi, just picked up the sport, but just with air rifles at the moment have a bit of land but hoping to get more. Into the decying and Hides, but cant get the ******* to land, going to be scanning all your brains over the next year or so to try and get some much needed tips. Until Then Cheers Scott :thumbs: Edited March 15, 2006 by scottk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 (edited) Welcome Scottk I would suggest you use the Airifle for pigeons that come in to roost in sitty trees etc. They are hard to get to land in decoy patterns, and if they do they dont hang around long. If you have land then what about getting a shotty for the flying variety, that way you at least have more options to improve your sport . good luck and good shooting. Cheers Sutty :thumbs: :thumbs: Edited March 15, 2006 by sutty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottk Posted March 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Cheers for the advice, nice to know its not just me! When you reed the mags they tell you not a problem, they will sit in a pattern no probs!!! Had one land so far, loads take a looksi, shotgun = dead pigeon, Air rifle = frustrated shooter!!! No permission for shot gun on this land, quiet or not at all. nice to know its not just me though!!! I have had the same problems with Crows!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 A dead rabbit with its guts out will keep crows down long enough for a shot, but they are crafty and bloody smart, you need to be very well concealed and STILL to be in with a chance with an airifle, or any other gun for that matter, Maggies are the same. There are some good threads on tempting corvids/Rats etc if you do a search.? Have you had any luck with Rabbits etc or is it just pigeon and the like your having probs with?. Have you spoke to the land owner about using a shotty?? Cheers Sutty :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Welcome to PW Scott. :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenzie Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hello mate, Welcome from 1 newbie to another. Kenzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Welcome Scott You will enjoy it here mate, be prepared to spend a lot of your time logged on, its addictive. You will also pick up loads of good tips & advice Cheers SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottk Posted March 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Yes, tried the rabbit (but not with guts out), but the crows still wont sit down going to try again this morning. My hide has been in place over 1 month and its mint! defintely cant see me. cant wait to get some or the black stuff!!!! No shotgun, the owner says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Well done and welcome to PW.I would also try at this time of year to set up a few more things for crows,like a dummy nest near to a fence/hedge and perhaps a couple of rabbits staked out.Anyway best of luck and let us know how you get on :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Welcome aboard. Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.17 hummer Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Yes, tried the rabbit (but not with guts out), but the crows still wont sit down going to try again this morning. My hide has been in place over 1 month and its mint! defintely cant see me. cant wait to get some or the black stuff!!!! No shotgun, the owner says. how about one of the hushpower range of pedretti shotguns? i have the 410 version and its very quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 wecome to the PWF first of all what type of airgun are you useing and what type of land are you shooting over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 (edited) . Edited September 3, 2009 by JohnGalway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 :thumbs: Welcome mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottk Posted March 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 (edited) Hi, thanks for all the posts guys, seems like a nice friendly forum. Tried the rabit to day guts out again, lots of circleing no landing though, have been landing in nearby trees, but no clean shots!!!! Got one but that was it , although nailed a rabbit while i was waiting ...HE... HE Luckily im firing a Daystate Airwolf .177, 30 mil Nikko Stirling Night Eater, Daystate field 4.52 pellets. Just cant get these dam crows to land, whats the trick boys? Edited March 19, 2006 by scottk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdev Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Welcome to the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 , going to be scanning all your brains over the next year or so to try and get some much needed tips. Welcome to PW Scott I've been scanning the same brains for a year now and I'm as puddled as they are Seriously ,some good advice from fellow shooters to be had here Ive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulltimeshooter Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 HI the best solution 2 ure problem would probly 2 buy one of those weirly machines or also known as magnets one of them is sure 2 help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velveteens Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Hi, thanks for all the posts guys, seems like a nice friendly forum. Tried the rabit to day guts out again, lots of circleing no landing though, have been landing in nearby trees, but no clean shots!!!! Got one but that was it , although nailed a rabbit while i was waiting ...HE... HE Luckily im firing a Daystate Airwolf .177, 30 mil Nikko Stirling Night Eater, Daystate field 4.52 pellets. Just cant get these dam crows to land, whats the trick boys? Have you tried making a scrape in the ground and laying a couple of eggs in it? I used this method for 40 years when getting rid of crows. In them days didn,t shoot them just put a bit of lard mixed with alpha chlolerosis in the eggs and picked them up the next morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 What i found will make a good PREMANENT hide it a stick made frame and every now and then get fresh branches from Conifer tree normally LOADS at the local dump and cost nothing :thumbs: Take a small roll of copper wire to wire the new green conifer onto the frame and it works a treat. Even when they die off they still make a good break up hide and takes VERY little to maintain. It also means less gear to lug about BUT the down side is if the pigeons move elsewhere your stuck The makeshift Net and pole hides are good too less than £50 if you shop about can get you the poles AND net and cheaper if second hand. The BEST hide i saw was a Dug out covered with camo netting but i would HATE to have to make a dug out everytime the pigeons moved I also found birds (even the bright ones) can't count well Three of us INC WIVES would go into the hide and the wives would go back to the cars and go home till we phoned em. Birds see us go in and the wives go out and think "Ah there they go lets go get some grub now they sodded off " As for Air rifle shooting for pigeons i think Henry hit the nail on the head. Go for the Roosted and tree bound birds as they feel safer in the tree and will sit longer. Welcome to the Forum and hope you get some good sport in the weeks to come LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 ever tried roost shooting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 (edited) Me? Yes i have Worst shots to take are straight up as you have to guage the distance between the barrel and centre of scope and KEEP that distance when taking the shot and it can be hard to guage for a newbie. Also when aiming up into branches at angles like 30 through to 65 degrees make sure you hold over a little as gravity works in weird ways :thumbs: Make sure you have a clear shot too as branches cause deflections LG Edited March 26, 2006 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 If you are shooting over 65-70 degrees you need to shoot slightly under, as gavity has less effect on the trajectory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeboy Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Welcome aboard ! getting pigeons to land in decoys is not easy, getting them to stand still long enough for a shot is nigh on impossible. getting them to land near lofted decoys is easier. It is worth picking a spot to decoy that has perching trees within range as I find that alot of pigeons wont land in the decoys but will land in a nearby tree for a look. Another good bit of advice is not to take too much stock in what you read in airgun mags, the safety stuff is always worth taking on board, the hunting articles are not very realistic. 15/20 years ago they were proper hunting, shooting mags. Now they are very watered down and in my opinion hinged around political correctness and telling people how things are done in an ideal world and not how they really are. When my dad took me to buy my first air rifle (about 1985) John Rothery himself told my dad to buy me playboy and not airgun mags, these he said were no better than comics. And that was when the mags were pretty realistic ! I wish you the best of luck, especially with your crows. They are just about the craftiest ******* and unless you are well conceiled and stock still they will see you and avoid you like the plague. I find them difficult even now I've got a shotty. Try a couple of crow decoys with your bait they can work well. Regards Leeboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will1992 Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Hiya mate! Your like it alot i havent been here long but already got lots of advice! Cheers Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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